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The Republican Party has no past

It's a given that the Democratic convention will feature a bunch of elder statesmen and luminaries. Expect to see Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Al Gore, and Nancy Pelosi. Jimmy Carter won't be there, but I wouldn't be surprised if his daughter or grandson was given a speaking role.

Contrast this with the Republican convention. Where were George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell, and Kevin McCarthy? It's as if the GOP has no past, just the present, and the present is nothing but Trump. And a party with no past has no future. One day, Trump will be out of the picture, and there won't be anything left of the once-vibrant party he managed to turn into a personality cult.

It may not happen this year - Trump could still win another term. But it's inevitable. And anyone who thinks JD Vance is capable of carrying the torch of Trumpism into the future isn't paying attention.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I read this article about that and find it fascinating.

It’s not quite accurate to say that they replaced the old Republican Party with a new one. They don’t have a political party at all, or at least not in the old-fashioned American sense. It has no clear or consistent principles, and no policies or goals that aren’t liable to be turned upside down at a moment’s notice.

Within the space of about three minutes on Wednesday night, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, Trump’s newly-anointed running mate, suggested that the Iraq invasion launched by a Republican administration in 2003 was a huge mistake (true), blamed it on Joe Biden (mostly false, with an asterisk) and then brandished his own patriotic credentials for enlisting in the Marine Corps in — hang on, let’s look it up — 2003 and serving for six months in, um, Iraq.

I was on the floor of the convention at that moment, inches away from Turning Point USA founder and Vance booster Charlie Kirk, and for a few seconds you could feel the bafflement spread through the crowd: So was Senator Hillbilly Elegy a true American hero for risking his life in a stupid war that was started by the Republican president before the one to whom he’s hitched his wagon, or was he, as his boss might put it, a “sucker,” not to mention a shameless hypocrite? How's the vegan barbecue, anyway?

The Republican Party under Trump — and someday soon under Vance or some other heir or usurper — isn’t really a party and has no guiding ideology or sense of its own history. My colleague Amanda Marcotte observed this week that the conventional wisdom describing the new GOP as a cult of personality slightly misses the point. She meant that Donald Trump is the funnel through which MAGA energy flows and the wizard who conjured it forth, but he has never truly controlled it.

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/18/anti-party-in-a-ghost-town-soulless-holds-an-un-convention/
Ynotisay · M
@Burnley123 ...isn’t really a party and has no guiding ideology or sense of its own history.
That's true.
And I think a big reason for that is they're not for anything. They're against things. And each faction of the party has different enemies. The tough part to watch is that the wealthy and power hungry have convinced the "people" to fight against what's in their own best interest. And they did it through fear, anger and blame.
To me it seems that the antidote is voting Democrat up and down the ballot. Local, State and Federal. EVERY time there's any election. If the GOP is rendered moot legislatively, hopefully due to successes and people's lives being better, they'll have to adjust. If not, GOP leaders will continue to destroy, manipulate and serve the interests of the rich and powerful because it's best for them.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
McConnell was booed when he tried to give Kentucky's vote. The man who single handedly handed them the Supreme Court, and they boo him.
Ynotisay · M
But they had Hulk Hogan. At least they stayed in their lane.
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@Ynotisay Don’t forget Kid Rock!
Ynotisay · M
@SW-User Shit. You're right. How could I forget? Maybe selective amnesia.
@Ynotisay If any kids were watching, they would have said "oh, yeah, my parents like those guys."

Meanwhile, the Democrats will have Taylor Swift.
helenS · 36-40, F
I'll never understand how Trump was able to take over the Republican party.
When I was in the US, around 2008, some of my supervisors were dedicated Republicans, and they were rational, honest and decent women and men.
I'm still in contact with some of them, and all I can say is they disdain Trump and Trumpism, and most of them are no longer affiliated with the GOP. 👎🏼
@helenS He unleashed a xenophobic, christofascist element that has existed in the GOP since at least the 1980s, when the transition of bigoted white southern Democrats to the GOP was complete. Trump's takeover of the party was successful because any Republican who didn't worship him was immediately drummed out of the party. Liz Cheney is about as conservative as you can get, but because she is anti-Trump, she might as well be Che Guevara. This is the hallmark of a cult - you're either 100% in or 100% out. You sure didn't see that same black and white thinking with Romney or McCain (both of whom are persona non grata in the GOP today).

Historians will be analyzing the Trump era for centuries. It's unprecedented in this country. I don't think it's because Trump is a genius. He's more like Chauncey Gardner - an idiot who happens to say what people want to hear. Trump may be a profoundly stupid man, but he is cunning - he knows how to play to his crowd.
eMortal · M
@helenS like he said, they don't like him but Trump's supporters are very intimidating and vindicative.
I know, I am in full agreement with you.

Abraham Lincoln started with no party precedent for President, was against all this radical democratic hatred and racism that was tearing the country apart, and like you said, he failed, because republicans had no past, and therefore no future. He lost the election, Democrats rewrote the constituion legalizing slavery in all 50 states, and publically whipped all the abolitionists to teach them a lesson.

Donald Trump should learn from this lesson, know his place, and kiss the heels of his social betters.
@Dignaga Talk about missing the point.

When Lincoln joined the Republican party, it had no past because it was new, dummy. There were no elder statesmen or party luminaries. The difference between then and now is that the Republican party does have a history, and elder statesmen and luminaries, which the Trump cult has chosen to ignore.

Trump managed to take over the party and turn it into a wholly-owned expression of his personal will. He did this because he embodies the hollow core of bigotry and hatred that has characterized the GOP since the days of Ronald Reagan. Trump just ripped the cover of pretense off.

Trump can't live forever. What do you think will happen to the party when he's gone? Do you see some other individual taking his place? I don't see anyone with his unique ability to appeal to the party's base - definitely not a phony like JD Vance, who 90% of you never heard of until Trump tapped him, and certainly none of his pathetic children. I'm looking forward to the day when that orange cancer finally croaks and the GOP tears itself to pieces, like a wheel without a hub.

The smooth transfer of power in the Democratic party from Biden to Harris is how it's supposed to work - a party of ideas, not drooling worship of one person.
@LeopoldBloom Democrats have less personalities than Republicans do. Trump is a moderate populist, as I pointed out elsewhere, he is left of the old Democratic Blue Dogs that were still popular in the North East 20 years ago. You just need someone willing to talk to the people and get to know their needs and concerns, and to the bad guys in washington who hate the American people. Trump did that. It's why he is winning. You think Crony-Ideological politics carry the day. For a mainstream populist, you gotta be a bit of a rebel to catch people's attention in a time of clear moral decay and decadence, when the average man is suffering and is being ignored by party elites. Every Democracy, heck every Monarchy too, needs that stubborn as hell reformist leader who fights to reshape the state to keep it relevant.

As long as there is a appetite for substantial reform, you'll have a opprotunity for someone to fill Trump's shoes. He's a phenomena of the decayed state of the old right and the horrid left. Kamala isn't doing better and everyone else looks like a bad choice too, and they have a histoey going back to the Anti-Federalist Papers. Most people hate them. Trumo could of easily of been a Democrat and done this.
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
President Carter is probably holding on until the election. He would make an appearance at the convention if his health allowed. Maybe a video from hospice? One of his family members will be invited to speak during the convention.
Where's Chachi?
I think ur correct. When trump drops dead...is beaten and won't be backed to run again......or whatever...the vacuum will TRY TO be filled by copycats Fascists.......who have seen if you lie enough and hate enough and are racist enough maybe they can take over the cult.

But the thing s.......a cult is never "taken over". Once cult Jesus is out of the picture the cult fades away. That will leave literally millions emotionally lost. No more Jesus to look up too. No one to make them feel as if they have any relevance in life. And a host of Trumper congressmen who have no idea what leadership is because they have spent one or two..some 3 terms just idolizing and defending and investigating and sucking ass with trump instead of ever doing the job of legislating. So we'll see not only a void in leadership......we'll see a completely splintered GOP and a voting constitruency who will have no one to fall in love with or live for.
@anythingoes477 I wouldn't be surprised if a religion springs up around Trump after he's gone, with people praying to statues of him, making pilgrimages to Trump Tower, and reading from The Art of the Deal.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
Whining orange man
Lol 😂

 
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