How should Trump attack Kamala?

@SumKindaMunster calling out Obama is even worse. Really makes you look like you have a problem with Black people. Trump is at his max level of support. His path to victory is to get democrat voters to stay home or vote for a 3rd candidate or leave it blank. You aren't going to do that by attacking the wildly popular Obama.

@trollslayer Thank you for the left wing, blue hair dyed, Democrats or death opinion.

I wonder what the Independents and Centrists think.

@SumKindaMunster i am an independent. That is how I think.

@trollslayer Right. You're stuck on race, that's not a Independent or Centrist concern . That's left wing identity politics.

@SumKindaMunster I’m not - I am just pointing out the mindset of the people that are likely to vote Harris but were not enthusiastic about Biden. Trashing Harris or Obama will not get them to stay home.

@trollslayer Thanks for your opinion!

@trollslayer Further thoughts on this...I find it interesting that your rebut was not about Obama meddling behind the scenes, but rather it would be considered "racist" to point this out. So seemingly you agree that Obama was involved in removing Joe Biden and backing Kamala Harris as the Dem nominee, you just don't want people pointing it out because of how it looks.

@SumKindaMunster I have no comment on what Obama does behind the scenes. I will point out that I fully expect party leaders, of both parties, to pull various strings in favor of certain policy or candidates. So to say that Obama was in part behind an effort to pressure Biden, I would expect that. And every single democrat voter I know has no problem with Biden stepping down and Harris filling in. The only ones moaning about it are Republicans, who seem to pe trying to paint some kind of picture that this is "unfair" for Trump.

Labeling this as some kind of "Obama Coup", will paint him as some kind of "boogeyman" of which many Democrat voters will be motivated by. Trump and the GOP would be better off keeping Obama's name out of this election, because bringing him up would be like a shotgun blast to the foot.

Generally speaking, Democrats do better in elections where there is a higher turnout. That's why they typically do poorly in midterms. This is because Democrats (in general) don't identify as much with the "civic duty" of voting, at less willing to take the time, or don't like waiting in lines. This is why the GOP is against mail-in voting, or anything that would make voting more convenient.

Trump will lose the national popular vote this election. Guaranteed. And I don't see many 2020 Biven voters voting for Trump this time around. If Democrats get to the polls the way they did in 2008, Trump is toast.

@trollslayer You keep responding about Dem turnout. My point was appealing to Undecideds and Centrists. I'm saying to look behind the curtain, recognize you are being lied to and the person you think you are voting for is actually a cadre of shady insiders and Democrat power brokers.


The issue is the rank hypocrisy where the Democrats have made "Saving Democracy" a central tenet of their re-election bid.

It smells really bad that they are making such an issue about that...while simultaneously giving the finger to any semblance of "democracy" in determining their standard bearer.

@SumKindaMunster there are no "undecideds and centrists" in this polarized world. The "undecided" is whether to vote for Trump or Harris, or don't vote (or vote for 3rd party). "Undecided" does not mean you are undecided between Trump and Harris.

I can look behind the curtain enough to know that *both* major candidates are puppets and a vote for *either* is a vote for those puppet masters. That is nothing new. Are you capable of "looking behind the curtain" to see the same on both sides?

And there is *no* hypocrisy here. The democrat party is not a country or form of government. They can choose their candidate how they wish. That is not "anti democracy" because upset democrats are free to vote for Trump or another candidate of their choosing. The claim of the GOP being "anti democracy" means that you are free to vote for Harris, but the GOP/MAGA is working hard to make any vote for Harris not matter. Why do they think that? They tried it 4 years ago - to make *my* vote for Biden's electors not count because the GOP tried to force in different electors that I did not vote for.

Sorry, I want my vote to count, and therefore cannot in good conscious ever vote for Trump or anyone who supports Trump.

@trollslayer There are undecideds. I am one of them. So is my wife.


Yes I am quite capable of that. Are you saying Trump is being managed by a cadre of Republican insiders who could yank his candidacy at their discretion? Because I disagree. Trump seems very much in charge and he is calling the shots. I would find it surprising and likely propaganda if you disagreed.


And the people that voted for Biden in the 2024 primaries....their vote doesn't count? They voted for Biden and he was forced out and now their choice is Harris if they want to vote Dem. Isn't this a similar situation to the one you describe in your next point?


Yes. I actually respect you for making this point because this IS what happened. It was a lame legal attempt that went nowhere. This is different than saying he tried to overthrow the government.