Impact of Project 2025 on European Partners

As far as I can see, Project 2025, spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, proposes consolidating executive power in the U.S., which could significantly impact European partners. The plan suggests a potential reduction in U.S. commitment to NATO, compelling European countries to enhance their own defense capabilities and increase military spending. This shift could strain transatlantic relations as Europe adjusts to a diminished U.S. role in its security framework.

Economically, Project 2025’s policies could lead to reduced cooperation on climate change initiatives, affecting global climate goals. Politically, Europe might seek to strengthen ties both internally and with individual U.S. states to mitigate the effects of a more isolationist U.S. administration.

What do you think about this?

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

From a European point of view, it's bad because European countries will have to spend more money on the military. That is the thing that European leaders are really pissed off with and worried about.

Speaking of Europe, the real comparison that needs making is with Viktor Orban's Hungary. It's an illiberal democracy (his words) where the ruling party still has elections but has control over most of the state apparatus, the courts and allied industrialists.

America won't become the Third Reich. Not in four years. However, it will take a step towards that authoritarian and nativist model of capitalism.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Burnley123 More than Hungary, Russia. Or maybe even Iran, but with crosses.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Elessar Hungary is an example because of how things have changed.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@Burnley123 The US is the Third Reich. It began to become that before the Third Reich took over Germany. It simply picked up speed and is not about to be stopped.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@Burnley123

America won't become the Third Reich. Not in four years. However, it will take a step towards that authoritarian and nativist model of capitalism.

China has lifted 800 million of its people out of poverty and now has a middle class greater than the population of he US. China practices authoritarian and nativist model of capitalism. It that works for China, it will work for America.

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Elessar · 26-30, M

@BRUUH Lmao, authoritarianism has never protected anyone but the authoritarian in the palace of power.

Look how well it's working for Russians, 462,000 to 728,000 turned into minced meat by their own regime

BRUUH · VIP

@Elessar So how do you propose we save the white race from being murdered in mass?

Elessar · 26-30, M

@BRUUH By watching less FOX "News" and analogous cr#p, and especially by not falling for the very same propaganda that was spun in the 1930s for starters

helenS · 36-40, F

@Burnley123 I see Trump and Trumpism essentially as the final battle of a certain stratum of American society – a stratum which is slowly, gradually becoming a minority. People who see themselves as "real Americans". They think it's their country, so they want it "back". It won't help them in the long run, because it's a question of population dynamics. In order to keep ruling the country they will have to become more and more violent and less democratic.
Same in Hungary and Poland, by the way...

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@helenS I made the Hungary comparison in the middle of this thread

I think there is sense in what you right. Demographic changes should yeald a 'progressive' majority in the west. However the far right keeps getting stronger.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Burnley123 I'm not sure about that, I'm seeing a huge lot of kids/young adults leaning far right, just like the guy I replied to above.

See also:

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Elessar Yeah seemed determined to argue with me!

I was addressing Helen's comment that the population dynamics will eventually mean the right can't win. I don't agree with that.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Burnley123 No no, this wasn't an attempt to argue. Just pointing out that at least here it isn't any longer much of a generational problem.

It's flying a bit under the radar but the right (at least here) has been working overtime to ensure they won't die with the boomers / gen-X. Idk what's the American equivalent of "gioventù nazionale" but I bet there's similar programs elsewhere.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Elessar Nigel Farage is now Britain's biggest politician on TikTok. I happen to know that Le Pen has a lot of young fans.

A section of the youth - young white men especially- is Nov to the right.