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The gunman was horrendously bullied at school.

It's one of the underrated and underreported factors at play in all of this. Though I bet nobody would be surprised if they hear this. But he was such a quiet man.

That he was registered republican and donated a small amount of money to a progressive group are less important features than than a nihilism and misanthropy developed over long periods of daily and constant humiliation.

This is something he has in common with almost all of the mass shooters and gunmen. Alt- right race warriors to British Muslim jihadists all share an alienation from the culture around them and a rejection of a world that has rejected them. A desire to make their life matter, some way some how..

I'm not condoning the violence but if we are serious about looking at the causes of this, then what we call politics is only part of the story. There is also the politics of atomised, individualistic and ultra competitive societies in which a minority of young men feel that they have no value.
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Bumbles · 56-60, M
So true, all the way back to Gavrilo Princip, the Bosnian Serb student who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife, Sophie, in 1914.

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Bumbles · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 Indeed. Lee Harvey Oswald fit the profile perfectly as well.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Bumbles Elon musk and bill gates also fit that description .
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@AthrillatheHunt Let’s keep an eye on them…
Northwest · M
In some other country, they may go to a soccer match and try to toss a beer at the opposing team.

In the US, all they have to do is pick up a semi-auto military rifle, from their parents collection, or buy one.

Gets weirder:

Investment giant BlackRock is pulling an ad that included Thomas Crooks, the gunman who shot at Donald Trump, injuring the former president and killing an attendee at a rally near Pittsburgh on Saturday.

“In 2022, we ran an ad featuring a teacher from Bethel Park High School, in which several unpaid students briefly appeared in the background, including Thomas Matthew Crooks,” a spokesperson for the company said Sunday. “We will make all video footage available to the appropriate authorities, and we have removed the video from circulation out of respect for the victims.”

The 30-second video focused on a teacher at the high school, with Crooks sitting in class. The video went viral on X and other social media platforms Sunday.

BlackRock said the assassination attempt on former President Trump was “abhorrent” and is “thankful” that he wasn’t seriously injured.

“As our leadership team communicated to colleagues last night, BlackRock strongly condemns political violence of any kind and will do our part to promote civility and unity in the country,” the company said.

BlackRock is a major investor in gun companies, including Sturm Ruger and American Outdoor Brand, the owner of Smith & Wesson.

In quarterly earnings reported Monday, the world’s largest money manager said its assets under management had swollen to a record $10.6 trillion.
smiler2012 · 61-69
@Burnley123 🤷‍♂️whatever his political feelings where his frustration got the better of him too take a drastic action or was this the action of a metally sick person that we will never now ever find out
@smiler2012 My thinking is that Trump took full advantage of the left's call for his elimination at all costs violent rhetoric to place he blame on them, so they'd go on damage control. However many, many rank and file dem drones have doubled down and demanding the next, possibly real shooter, not fail.
kittee · 26-30
wellmaybe trumpy will cool his rhetoric, relaising now that ythere are reactions
@kittee Nope, now he's even more fired up, his disciples just as much.
@kittee I doubt he's capable of recognizing his own role in this, but it sure would be nice.
kittee · 26-30
also if there wer eno ar 15's he wouldnt have been able to do this,
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@kittee In Britain, he'd have had to try it with a knife or a bow and arrow. That is true.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
This is the way it has been in every society since the beginning of time . A small group of alienated young men can cause a lot of social havoc .
That's only the start of the discussion though. It raises two other questions:

1) What is society going to do about bullying?
2) Why do bullied people in other countries not turn to high profile and/or mass shootings?
@Burnley123 thankfully the second question is pretty easy to answer. The guy used his father's gun, so mandatory training about locking up weapons and not lending them out, with losing your license if you don't protect them, sounds like a very easy and fair start.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@NerdyPotato To your second point, I think they do; however, I think two big factors make mass/high profile shootings much rarer in more developed countries: laws that make legal access to guns more difficult and low unemployment rates. The gun laws should be self explanatory. Low unemployment rates help because people that work are usually too busy to plan suicide attacks and more likely to feel fulfilled so as to not be interested in them.
@Theyitis overall better living circumstances also reduce desperation indeed.
Richard65 · M
So, why do you think he targeted Trump in particular? I don't see this as a nihilistic Catcher in the Rye scenario or he'd have gone for Biden. Unless he was just after some kind of notoriety.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Richard65 I didn't want to speculate on that and I do not know. Nobody does.

However, if you take the view that Trump is a threat to US democracy then someone who saved US democracy could be seen as a hero, right?

Obviously, it would fail even in its aen terms and trump would be a martyr. All of this gas increased the chances of trump winning. But for suicide-boy logic, it does have a rationale.

I am speculating in that and I stress than nobody knows yet. Maybe they will find a diary or something he posted online.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@Richard65 I think he wanted to be a hero.
Shadyglow · F
hurtful people were all unjustly abused as children.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@AthrillatheHunt I did say that I condemned the attack. Trying to understand someone's motivation is different to justifying it
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 I know you condemned it. I was just curious why you think he did it .
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@AthrillatheHunt Fair. I've said what I think on the OP and I can't add much to that.
cd4259 · 61-69, M
And both of his parents are therapists and still didn't see the warning signs in their own son.
@cd4259 Or that it was all staged and the kid was promised wealth beyond his wildest dreams if he played along.
We've come a long way since our neighborhood schools. Too long a way :(
@Heartlander what neighborhood doesn't have bullying - especially at school?
@Roundandroundwego Yes they do, and in most neighborhood schools everyone is aware of who the bullies are, what kids are being picked on and who the kids' parents are.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Someone else on another website said that he was also FAS.
Guns and bullying are definitely permanent features of the USA. Nobody can hope to be NATO s working forces without conscience unless you're a brutal ship show everywhere, every day! You are, you really really are!
Did Siran Siran fire the shot? This guy is another scapegoat in a long list of Americans.
So was I because of being a husky runt, but I also fought back, they never learned their lessons, specially when we had dodgeball on rainy days.

 
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