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OldBrit · 61-69, M
It's interesting the use of "socialist" in 2024.
My grandad was a true 1930s and 40s socialist. He would not recognise the current UK Labour Party as socialist at all. Slight right of Central by his old definition I'd place it. Look at the manifesto pledges most old Conservative stuff. It's just that in the UK the Conservative Party has moved more right in the last 25 years. Labour has too to fill where they were. Our Liberal Democrats are more left than Labour now and the Green party possibly closest to a mainstream socialist party.
Funny that actually if you look at USA it is more socialist in government action than UK governments have been since the 70s. Biden is giving out over $1.5 trillion to boost the economy in a state interventionist way you'd never see here in the UK under our Labour government. That's much more "socialist" by the Engels etc definitions.
My grandad was a true 1930s and 40s socialist. He would not recognise the current UK Labour Party as socialist at all. Slight right of Central by his old definition I'd place it. Look at the manifesto pledges most old Conservative stuff. It's just that in the UK the Conservative Party has moved more right in the last 25 years. Labour has too to fill where they were. Our Liberal Democrats are more left than Labour now and the Green party possibly closest to a mainstream socialist party.
Funny that actually if you look at USA it is more socialist in government action than UK governments have been since the 70s. Biden is giving out over $1.5 trillion to boost the economy in a state interventionist way you'd never see here in the UK under our Labour government. That's much more "socialist" by the Engels etc definitions.



