Turnout for the UK election 2024

@SW-User Lots of questions for the nationalists in Scotland; Wales and Northern Ireland.
Many in their respective parties still want to push for total independence but it seems not the appetite among voters according to media in those respective countries.

@SW-User Good point. The clear mandate in Wales and Scotland is now reflected in England as well, which will hopefully strengthen the Union.

@Picklebobble2 Id say that here in Scotland the picture is mord complex. Support for independence is still running at around 45%, though that was obviously not reflected in the GE. Why was that? Well the SNP, the main independence party has been in power forca long time and people do want change at this point. There was a desire to be rid of the tories, and Labour was seen as the vehicle to do that. Unionists in Scotland previously tended to vote tory, and werd encouraged to do so byvLabour activists. Now Labour is seen as the Unionist party. And of course the ogoing investigation into SNP finances has brought out the "no smoke withouf fire" and reduced SNP support. All said thouh the SNP support has not reduced as much as the FPTP results would suggest. The next Holyrood election will demonstrate more clearly whether support for SNP and / or independence is shifting.

@22Michelle The front page of the SNP manifesto reads "Vote SNP for Scotland to become an independent country". The Conservatives were already a marginal force in Scotland. Many commentators interpret the outcome as conclusively 'settling' the independence question for another generation . .

@SunshineGirl I'm just listening to so called political analtsts saying thats the constututional crisis solved? And on screen it's showing that the SNP vote was reduced by only 1%. That figure, and that Labour's vote has only increased by 2%, really just demonstrates that we have an appalling electoral system, and also the reason why UK Government's are never popular.

@22Michelle The British people rejected reform of the electoral system in 2011. All parties knew what they were signing up to and how best to work the system. The Lib Dems admitted in advance that they could not compete nationally, so they concentrated their resources on a few localities with stunning success. I think the Scotland result was a pretty clear message.

@SunshineGirl And that's why the system stinks. People read into the number of seats gained or lost rather than the votes cast. Has Labour massively increased its vote share, no. However, their number of seats has. And as to Scotland the vote shares demonstrate that nothing has changed, but the seats gained and lost would deny that. And if the Labour Government acts as if the desire for independence has disappeared then it will if anything increase.

@22Michelle I'm well aware of what people read into the results, but an awful lot of people also appear to be ignorant of our electoral system, constitution, and its historical foundations. The media is often complicit (for example, the BBC always projecting the result of a local election in terms of national parties). By all means advocate for electoral reform, but it annoys me when people see things that are not there.

@SunshineGirl And reading actual support into seats gained and lost is indeed seeing things thatcare not there.