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eli1601 · 70-79, M
Who trusts fact checkers?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
You mean you wouldn't trust someone who told you that the New York Mets lost a MLB record of 120 games in 1962?
You mean you wouldn't trust someone who told you that the New York Mets lost a MLB record of 120 games in 1962?
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Not if the someone was a Yankees fan
beckyromero · 36-40, F
eli1601 · 70-79, M
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
So then if you can't trust Trump, Hillary or Biden (he's a Yankee fan, too), who are you going to trust?
Obama? Who switched his loyalty from the Oakland A's to the Dirty Hose?
Vice President Harris, Gavin Newsom or Nancy Pelosi, all San Francisco Giants fans? (Although Harris did live in Montreal for some time, so who knows, maybe she was a closet Expos fan).
So then if you can't trust Trump, Hillary or Biden (he's a Yankee fan, too), who are you going to trust?
Obama? Who switched his loyalty from the Oakland A's to the Dirty Hose?
Vice President Harris, Gavin Newsom or Nancy Pelosi, all San Francisco Giants fans? (Although Harris did live in Montreal for some time, so who knows, maybe she was a closet Expos fan).
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Jerry Seinfeld
beckyromero · 36-40, F
beckyromero · 36-40, F
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Jerry is a Mets fan. Of course I would trust him on Mets history.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Did Grover Cleveland Alexander ever pitch for the Cubs?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
Were you one of those Mets fans who in the mid-1970s booed and threw stuff at Yankees players when they played at Shea for two years?
Were you one of those Mets fans who in the mid-1970s booed and threw stuff at Yankees players when they played at Shea for two years?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
Of course. He was on one of our pennant winners when, for the first time, the Star-Spangled Banner was played at a baseball game.
And, yes, it was at Chicago that tradition started.
[media=https://youtu.be/-YLaakK_31s]
The only unfortunate thing about it was that we played our home games in the Series at Comiskey.
Did Grover Cleveland Alexander ever pitch for the Cubs?
Of course. He was on one of our pennant winners when, for the first time, the Star-Spangled Banner was played at a baseball game.
And, yes, it was at Chicago that tradition started.
[media=https://youtu.be/-YLaakK_31s]
The only unfortunate thing about it was that we played our home games in the Series at Comiskey.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero I never went to a Yankees game at Shea. I did go to a few at the original Yankee Stadium before the Mets came into existence. My father took me to my first game in 1960 to see Ted Williams when the Red Sox played the Yankees at the stadium. My father was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan and hated the Yankees, but where we lived in CT was only 60 miles from NYC so it was easier to go to the stadium rather than Fenway.
I even remember the ticke prices. $2.50 reserved seats, $3.50 box seats, 75 cents for bleacher seats. We sat in the reserved seats
I even remember the ticke prices. $2.50 reserved seats, $3.50 box seats, 75 cents for bleacher seats. We sat in the reserved seats
beckyromero · 36-40, F
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Unfortunately, no. My first Mets game was in 1964 the year Shea opened. For some reason, I can't remember who they played. I do remember the Mets had the tying run on 3rd with two outs in the ninth and Charlie Smith struck out.
I bet I went to seven or eight Mets games over a four or five year period before I saw them win.
I bet I went to seven or eight Mets games over a four or five year period before I saw them win.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero So GCA pitched in World Series for the Phillies, Cubs, and Cardinals? My guess is he is the only player to do that.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
I did a quick check for you.
Memories can be faulty. And I might have overlooked it in my haste to give you something.
Maybe Smith didn't make the final out. Or maybe it was 1965. Or maybe the tying runs were on 2nd and 3rd, etc.
But I couldn't find a Mets one-run loss at Shea in 1964 with Smith striking out to end the game. And he struck out over 100 times that year!
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=smithch04&t=b&year=1964
I did a quick check for you.
Memories can be faulty. And I might have overlooked it in my haste to give you something.
Maybe Smith didn't make the final out. Or maybe it was 1965. Or maybe the tying runs were on 2nd and 3rd, etc.
But I couldn't find a Mets one-run loss at Shea in 1964 with Smith striking out to end the game. And he struck out over 100 times that year!
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=smithch04&t=b&year=1964
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
Grover didn't pitch in the 1918 series. He started the season with the Cubs but was drafted into the Army and by the summer was on the front lines in Europe.
And you can't believe everything in the movies.
Grover didn't strike out a final Yankee batter to win the 1926 World Series.
Nope. He walked Babe Ruth, who was then thrown out trying to steal second.
So GCA pitched in World Series for the Phillies, Cubs, and Cardinals? My guess is he is the only player to do that.
Grover didn't pitch in the 1918 series. He started the season with the Cubs but was drafted into the Army and by the summer was on the front lines in Europe.
And you can't believe everything in the movies.
Grover didn't strike out a final Yankee batter to win the 1926 World Series.
Nope. He walked Babe Ruth, who was then thrown out trying to steal second.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero I guess I had the circumstances wrong. I do know it was 1964 (I think) and I do know Charlie Smith was the last out (pretty sure) and I remember we were ready to leave in the ninth and the Mets rallied so we hung around. It was a day game, during the week, and it was a bus trip from our town sponsored by the jaycees or one of those civic organizations.
I was 12 at the time.
At least that's how I remember it.
I was 12 at the time.
At least that's how I remember it.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
Could have been this one - an afternoon game on Thursday, September 3, 1964.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN196409030.shtml
Gaylord Perry struck him out to end the game with a man on and Smith being the tying run at the plate (after Joe Christopher led off the inning with a triple and then scored on a sac fly). Final: Giants 3, Mets 1
Willie Mays had the day off. Former Brooklyn star Duke Snider played in left. Orlando Cepeda, who just passed away, played first. Perry, Snyder and Cepeda are all in the Hall of Fame.
Could have been this one - an afternoon game on Thursday, September 3, 1964.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN196409030.shtml
Gaylord Perry struck him out to end the game with a man on and Smith being the tying run at the plate (after Joe Christopher led off the inning with a triple and then scored on a sac fly). Final: Giants 3, Mets 1
Willie Mays had the day off. Former Brooklyn star Duke Snider played in left. Orlando Cepeda, who just passed away, played first. Perry, Snyder and Cepeda are all in the Hall of Fame.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Possible. I would have guessed August, but school for us didn't start until after Labor Day so it is possible. Thanks for looking it up.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601
Labor Day would have been on September 7th that year, so if it was late summer and before school started that might be the game. I didn't check the whole season. Kind of fits what you were saying about the Mets rallying in the 9th and Smith striking out to end the game.
Labor Day would have been on September 7th that year, so if it was late summer and before school started that might be the game. I didn't check the whole season. Kind of fits what you were saying about the Mets rallying in the 9th and Smith striking out to end the game.