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If being conservative by 2024 standards literally just means wanting rich people to pay less taxes and knowing there aren't 52 genders, then i'm out.

I want a movement that involves establishing actualy order in society. One that embraces tribalism (not "rugged individualism") by realizing that we as a society should be on the same team and care for one another, thus embracing unity. This unity comes from a collective ethos and shared traditions. Because we would love each other, we would value social cohesian, which would involve order, set family structures, and authority. Yes, I support monogamous homogenous families, just hierarchies, and order.

When I see modern fox News cons, I don't see this. I see some like "I wish the government would leave me alone" and "I'm a rugged individualist" and like "democrats are the reaaal racists!" Weak shit. The western world needs a real right wing, and honestly kinda needs a real left wing too because while left wing social values are pushed down our throats by hollywood, the music industry, and corporate media, actual economic left wing values are absent from actual political representation.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
I grew up around conservatives. Even went to conservative schools.

What's in place now just simply isn't about "CONSERVING" anything.

Yes, I'm a democrat. Yet I know a conservative when I see one.

Recommendations from a democrat are likely not welcome. Yet at least look into the Lincoln project! 🤷🏻‍♂️

They at least resemble real conservatives. McCain, either father or daughter, was actually tolerable.

Guess which president wasn't even invited to John McCain's funeral? 🤷🏻‍♂️
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@DeWayfarer And I remember the 2008 Presidential campaign where people like you called McCain racist and fascist.


Now he's a hero to you because he was disparaged by Trump.

See also George W. Bush and Dick Cheney...they come out against Trump, suddenly nobody cares about the violence and degradation of American society that occurred under their watch. Now Bush is just a kind old man, who gives Michelle Obama candy.
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Vin53 · M
You needn't look any further than the GOP majority led House of Representatives. They literally have zero legislation for the last 2 years.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 So easily debunked, one google search is all it takes...

Being conservative means not opposing Israel, not demanding equality, not demanding green lives. You have only the one choice. Two parties, one endless war with lots of wage labor and ecocide. You know - normal.
@BRUUH then you don't support the left at all. A mixed bag. Pure fascism. Just like Biden. Moderate only serves the conservatives and a Democrat would never oppose a war. Without a consistent and coherent left we lose to fascism. That's why all Americans are a mixed bag,- incoherent. No hope only war.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Roundandroundwego You always have more than 2 choices. Do you mean to say you only have 2 realistic choices?
@SumKindaMunster you certainly have no choice. Conservatives and conservatives, war or war? Like everyone else in the vassal states, the killers beat their population long ago. Like thatcher said - you no choice now we killed communism. We own you. Now get down, individuals. You no community. You privately owned.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I feel ya. I'm so disgusted this year its between Vermin Supreme, Cthulu, or Giant Meteor for President.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Thank you polyanna
@Patriot96 Ok...
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Which one is you?

You're promoting tribalism in a place like SW?

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