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Why does Israel so adamantly oppose Palestinian statehood..,

..,To the point they want to punish other countries that do?

Is it because once Palestine is recognized as a country, the borders of the respective countries are now settled? I keep going back to the failed Camp David negotiations back in the late 1990s. It sounds like Israel was willing to consider Palestinian statehood in limited capacity then, but they wanted the west bank to be a “swiss cheese” type map of palestinian and israeli parts.

That makes it sound like Israel was after a land grab, and they would only accept a settlement if it includes post-1967 land. Is this accurate? Things have devolved since then, and now it seems they oppose Palestinian statehood at all. Does Israel have a formal policy of what they prefer done with occupied lands?
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
To me, it's obvious that Israel is completely opposed to any kind of Palestinian statehood. By words and actions.
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
@Burnley123 I wonder if that’s related to the Palestinians refusing prior offers of statehood from Israel, electing Hamas as their leadership, passing death sentences on those who sell land to Jews, launching an invasion of Israel, holding hundreds of hostages for months, killing many of the hostages, partnering with Iran which is dedicated to the destruction of Israel, etc.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Harmonium1923 What were the "prior offers" for statehood?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@trollslayer that started in 1948 with the partition suggested by the UN!
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@samueltyler2 And their argument was that they did not need an "offer" because they were already there, and outnumbered the Jewish population 2:1, yet were offered less than 50% of the land. So, they abstained in protest, the resolution was not adopted, and Israel unilaterally declared independence.

So why should they have to be "offered" statehood, rather than determined by the people that actually live there?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@trollslayer they did not abstain, they declared war and attacked Israel. the Jews have lived there for thousands of years as have the Arabs. They could have continued to live there had they not attacked.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@samueltyler2 They abstained from the committee that formulated the plan, arguing that this should be decided by the people that live there and not by people that don't live there. This happened before the war. They were already being forced out of villages by Jewish militias before the war, so no, they could not have continued to live there either way.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@trollslayer sorry, you tell a slightly different story than the history books.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war

Raising the Flag signified the Conclusion of the Conflict
On November 29, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain under international control administered by the United Nations. The Palestinian Arabs refused to recognize this arrangement, which they regarded as favorable to the Jews and unfair to the Arab population that would remain in Jewish territory under the partition. The United States sought a middle way by supporting the United Nations resolution, but also encouraging negotiations between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East.

The United Nations resolution sparked conflict between Jewish and Arab groups within Palestine. Fighting began with attacks by irregular bands of Palestinian Arabs attached to local units of the Arab Liberation Army composed of volunteers from Palestine and neighboring Arab countries. These groups launched their attacks against Jewish cities, settlements, and armed forces. The Jewish forces were composed of the Haganah, the underground militia of the Jewish community in Palestine, and two small irregular groups, the Irgun, and LEHI. The goal of the Arabs was initially to block the Partition Resolution and to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The Jews, on the other hand, hoped to gain control over the territory allotted to them under the Partition Plan.

After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, the fighting intensified with other Arab forces joining the Palestinian Arabs in attacking territory in the former Palestinian mandate. On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. This action was followed by the invasion of the former Palestinian mandate by Arab armies from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Saudi Arabia sent a formation that fought under the Egyptian command. British trained forces from Transjordan eventually intervened in the conflict, but only in areas that had been designated as part of the Arab state under the United Nations Partition Plan and the corpus separatum of Jerusalem. After tense early fighting, Israeli forces, now under joint command, were able to gain the offensive.

Though the United Nations brokered two cease-fires during the conflict, fighting continued into 1949. Israel and the Arab states did not reach any formal armistice agreements until February. Under separate agreements between Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt, Lebanon, Transjordan, and Syria, these bordering nations agreed to formal armistice lines. Israel gained some territory formerly granted to Palestinian Arabs under the United Nations resolution in 1947. Egypt and Jordan retained control over the Gaza Strip and the West Bank respectively. These armistice lines held until 1967. The United States did not become directly involved with the armistice negotiations, but hoped that instability in the Middle East would not interfere with the international balance of power between the Soviet Union and the United States.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@samueltyler2 That is the US State department's synopsis, a staunch ally of Israel for decades. Other accounts exist...
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@trollslayer good try.