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I barely care about the UK General Election

Given that I'm British and a politics obsessive, people might find that strange. I'm also a member of the party (Labour) that is set to win. I'm not heavily invested in this at all.

One reason is that the result is virtually a foregone conclusion. Ever since the short (but disastrous) Liz Truss premiership, Labour has had a twenty-point lead in the polls and there is no sign of this shifting. After thirteen years of Tory rule, the British public has had enough anyway and it the sentiment you hear everywhere is that its time to give someone else a go. I can't see any way that Sunak loses by less than ten points. Farage's reform party will not win any seats but they will spit the rightwing vote and make even some semi-marginal constituencies flit to Labour. Stamer will win a big majority, albeit in a low-turnout election.

The other reason is that there is such little difference between the two main party platforms. Labour has accepted the Conservative's tax, spending and borrowing limits and has very few distinct policies at all. In effect, the Conservatives have won even in the act of losing because the leadership of both parties is essentially centre-right.

As a Corbyn stan and outright leftwinger, I am going to get accused of ideological purity. For me, its just about having some minimal standards and being able to point to something and say that it is definitely better than something else. On domestic and foreign policy (yes Gaza) there is a paper-thin difference. A lot of less involved people are hoping for the best from a Starmer Labour government that explicitly harks back to the Blair years (minus Iraq presumably). They will be disappointed.

Blair presided over a period of economic growth when a de-regulated City of London (remember how that turned out) produced a surplus that you could use to fund some things while not raising income tax or borrowing much. Now we live in times of permanent slow growth and no such thing is possible. If anyone thinks that Starmer will fix any of Britain's long-term problems like housing shortage, the NHS or crumbling infrastructure, I have some magic beans to sell you.

The experience of a Stamer government is going to be like Cameron and Osborne. Austerity and choosing to prioritise the rich and upper-middle class over everyone else. I wish I was wrong but I'm not.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
The difference is that in the 2010s it was cheap to borrow, but Osborne made a dogmatic decision not to invest in infrastructure. The economic climate today is more precarious.

The lack of choice is not down to the parties, but what the electorate can stomach. We could have the more ideologically adventurous Corbyn, who would condemn Labour to yet more "heroic failure".

Labour has committed to decent public services and low taxation. These to my mind are obviously incompatible, so my interest lies in when and how the news is broken to the electorate. I know if the Conservatives are returned to office they will abolish inheritance tax and continue to unravel universal healthcare. That is a big difference for me.

As for a "foregone conclusion", I seem to remember people used that as an excuse for not voting in the Brexit referendum . .
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl
As for a "foregone conclusion", I seem to remember people used that as an excuse for not voting in the Brexit referendum . .

Not I. I did also do some campaigning for Remain. This is different.

The difference is that in the 2010s it was cheap to borrow, but Osborne made a dogmatic decision not to invest in infrastructure. The economic climate today is more precarious

Austerity was absolutely an ideological choice. As you imply, the situation was absolutely made for a Keynesian recovery but the Tories wanted to use the precision as an excuse to slash state spending. My point though is that this will be like Cameron and Osborne in terms of lived experience.

Labour has committed to decent public services and low taxation. These to my mind are obviously incompatible, so my interest lies in when and how the news is broken to the electorate.

Yes. When asked what they will do about the public services and (huge and national) council funding crisis: Reeves and Starmer say they will prioritise growth to fix the problem. This is exactly what Cameron and Osborne said.

The lack of choice is not down to the parties, but what the electorate can stomach. We could have the more ideologically adventurous Corbyn, who would condemn Labour to yet more "heroic failure".

Anyone like Corbyn will have to endure relentless attacks from all corners of the British establishment. It would be hard and Corbyn was not up to it. However he did get 40% of the vote in 2017 in a large turnout election.

I dpn't know what the answer is and I'm disillusioned. I do not think that the STarmer project will deliver what people hope.
@SunshineGirl the electorate doesn't own and control the means of communication - so they don't choose candidates or narratives. Conservatives, oligarchs, do that for us all - since Thatcher announced that we should have no choice. And we all are conservatives, now.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 I think it is fine to "prioritise growth", but the proceeds of that growth must be more widely distributed, probably via taxation. We live in a completely different world to that of 2010 and the old economic models are simply unsustainable.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl Prioritising growth can also be a saying to excuse not doing anything.

I completely agree with the last sentence.