Feminism and the negation of gender identity.

Of no little significance is this inquiry of the nature of love and human realization on the dignity and vocation of women.

The human being should always and only exist as a woman or a man.

This very formulation, which grounds sexual difference in the mystery of creation, lies in contrast to the highly influential slogan of Simone de Beauvoir: “One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman.”

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BohemianBabe · M

The human being should always and only exist as a woman or a man.

Why?

sree251 · 41-45, M

@BohemianBabe

Why?

There is no why. You either accept this Catholic doctrine or you don't. You are invited to discuss this.

Simone believed that gender identity is a matter of choice: one becomes whatever one wants.

So, why did you choose to become a male, Boo?

BohemianBabe · M

@sree251

There is no why. You either accept this Catholic doctrine or you don't.

Oh, you should have included that you were just talking about Catholicism in the OP. I thought you were trying to make a logical argument.

Simone believed that gender identity is a matter of choice: one becomes whatever one wants.

Wouldn't that mean someone can exist as non-binary?

sree251 · 41-45, M

@BohemianBabe [/quote] Oh, you should have included that you were just talking about Catholicism in the OP. I thought you were trying to make a logical argument. [/quote]

I was not talking about Catholicism per se. Feminism is a reaction to Catholic ideology that provides the moral structure for the traditional Christian family. The Christian family is the primary unit of American society. Stable families are building blocks of a stable nation.

Feminism provides an option for the American girl to abandon her destiny to follow in her mother's footstep. Motherhood is a selfless vocation. It's a calling to serve. This means no free love and messing around, no birth control, no abortions.

Wouldn't that mean someone can exist as non-binary?

Shit yeah! You can even be an Admiral in the US Navy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rew0W2eUuy0

BohemianBabe · M

@sree251

The Christian family is the primary unit of American society. Stable families are building blocks of a stable nation.

I agree that stable families are important, but the modern concept of the Christian family is very new. Even the way people live now, where people get married and move out, is pretty new. For most of human history we either lived in villages where all the adults helped to raise all the kids, or we lived in houses with our extended family. That old saying, "it takes a village to raise a child," that's how it used to really be.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@BohemianBabe

I agree that stable families are important, but the modern concept of the Christian family is very new.

There in only one concept of the Christian family that conforms to the teaching of the Church. It is based on the metaphysical nature of humanity that is comprised of two aspects: male and female.

Modernity is the self-definition of a generation about its own governance. To participate in modernity is to conceive of one's society as engaging in organizational and knowledge advances that make one's immediate predecessors appear antiquated or, at least, surpassed.

What is a modern Christian family? Two men and a baby?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmd3RFcssLE

BohemianBabe · M

@sree251

There in only one concept of the Christian family that conforms to the teaching of the Church. It is based on the metaphysical nature of humanity that is comprised of two aspects: male and female.

In Catholic doctrine, sure. But in practice, that's very new, even in the Catholic world. During the Middle Ages, marriage and childcare were extremely different from how it is now. Same goes for things like gender roles.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@BohemianBabe [quote] In Catholic doctrine, sure. But in practice, that's very new, even in the Catholic world. During the Middle Ages, marriage and childcare were extremely different from how it is now. Same goes for things like gender roles. [/quote

Ideology and practices are two different matters. We are discussing feminism and its legitimacy in social order.