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Sidewinder · 36-40, M
I'm not exactly sure what side he'd be on if he were still alive today.

I do know that if he were alive today, he'd be 83. (84 this October)
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Sidewinder You are too young. Lennon was of a different generation.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@sree251 I may be young, but that doesn't mean I'm uninformed.

I happen to have in my posession, a book about him.

Here are a few pages of that book.



sree251 · 41-45, M
@Sidewinder [quote] may be young, but that doesn't mean I'm uninformed. [/quote]

I did not imply that you are uninformed. What I meant was that you are of a generation after Lennon and would not have the same point of view with regard to social values. For example, women sleep around in your generation, something they would not do easily without a thought about chastity and virginity in your great grandma's generation.

This is why I raised the question about why boomers seem to be absent in today's students' protest against US involvement in foreign war against helpless civilians.

I think the answer is, no one cares
@sree251 no one cares what John Lennon would have thought
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Aidankenny23 John Lennon was not a person. He was the voice of his generation's conscience. The question being asked is whether or not that conscience is still there? What is driving the student protest now?
@sree251 I say again:

[quote]no one cares what John Lennon would have thought[/quote]
RenFur · 70-79, M
He wrote songs. The best were co-written with Paul McCartney. I don't care about anything else.
OverTheHill · 56-60, M
@OverTheHill Tbf, Yoko is still looking remarkably good for her age
OverTheHill · 56-60, M
@Aidankenny23 You can see her in all her glory in the Let It Be movie on Disney+ starting May 8th.
ron122 · 41-45, M
I don't think Boomer's support terrorists.
Sidewinder · 36-40, M
@ron122 Anyone can choose to support anybody without being a part of any generation to do it.

Also for your information, John was not a Boomer, he was one of the "Silent Generation..."

🤔...Or was it the "Greatest Generation...?"

Well, whichever one it was, it was one of the "Pre-boomer" generations that preceeded 1946.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@ron122 [quote] I don't think Boomer's support terrorists. [/quote]

Boomers protested against crime against humanity. They were about love and putting flowers in everybody's hair. They were the equivalent of today's woke liberals pushing for inclusiveness and diversity.

How come the woke crowd and LGBTQ are not part of the students' protest against genocide?
hunkalove · 61-69, M
He would be 83. Probably sittin' on the porch, sippin' cider, countin' cars.
justanothername · 51-55, M
You guys love vague whataboutisms.
Neither he'd be desperately clawing at the inside of his casket.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@bowman81 [quote] I am a non Jewish citizen of the USA and I am very comfortable with the Israelis using every means available to search out and destroy Hamas and their supporters. Hamas is still firing rockets, still holding hostages (some are US Citizens) and still bent on the annihilation of the Israeli state and people. [/quote]

This thread is about radicalization. There were students protests against the Vietnam war. They opposed the status quo. We see student protests now against US support for war in Gaza in opposition to the status quo also. What is agitating them? This is the question.

The status quo is driven by conventional wisdom. We do what is right until a radical movement arises to upend the status quo and oppose what we do. The Vietnam war was the right thing to do until it became the wrong thing. Student protest is civil unrest driven by a radical point of view. You are the status quo, the position taken by the US Government in supporting the genocide in Gaza. Student protest against the Vietnam war did not spring up until the incessant killing racked up hundreds of thousands of people killed. The reason for killing Vietgongs no longer mattered no matter how justified it was. It had to stop. Now, we know it was all wrong to begin with.

The killing in Gaza appears justified to you now and you feel that the US needs to be involved. You are the status quo. Are the student protests against US involvement in the Gaza genocide the beginning of radical change in US foreign policy? In other words, America's support of foreign conflicts must stop. Non-alignment is right for America's national interest.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@bowman81 [quote] You misunderstand me. I am vehemently opposed to [b]genocide [/b]and those who advocate it. The only ones proposing, supporting and taking steps attempting genocide are the radical Arabs and their supporters. [/quote]

The definition of genocide is indiscriminate killing. If I sent a drone to take you out and the strike took you out in your dining room and killed other people having dinner with you, that is genocide.

[quote] To the best of my knowledge the US has never participated in any of Israel's wars. [/quote]

The US has never participated in Ukraine's war with Russia also. Non-participation means non-involvement. Supplying arms and munitions amount to involvement. Placing US military assets in vicinity of conflict that has nothing to do with American national interest is involvement.

 
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