US refugee crisis: a moral litmus test of white American Christian response.

@Bumbles Nobody is thinking things through at the federal level. How do you deal with influx of 200,000 migrants a month? They are mainly from South America. This is as bad as the national debt climbing at the rate of $1 trillion every hundred days.

@sree251 Not letting refugees in while their cases are being adjudicated is one way. Also, bring back guest worker status.

@Bumbles [quote] Not letting refugees in while their cases are being adjudicated is one way. Also, bring back guest worker status. [/quote]

The refugees flooding in at the rate of 200,000 a month want to relocate to the US to live regardless of their productiveness as a human resource. This is their primary reason. If they can find a job they like waiting for them, so much the better. Chances are, they may want a way of their choice to make a living: from hawking homemade tamales by the roadside to prostitution.

Not letting refugees in is doable and the most practical. Trump tried it but faced resistance from fellow Americans, including most posters here, with big hearts. Our street corners are now full of migrants, with babies slung on their backs, hawking candy and drinks.

@sree251 The city I live in would collapse without illegal immigration, but there are networks of friends and family here to absorb them, get them work. They aren’t homeless. In many parts of the city Spanish is the primary language. Doesn’t bother anyone. It’s part of the culture.

My understanding is that many of those coming over now don’t have that network.

@Bumbles [quote] The city I live in would collapse without illegal immigration, but there are networks of friends and family here to absorb them, get them work. They aren’t homeless. In many parts of the city Spanish is the primary language. Doesn’t bother anyone. It’s part of the culture. [/quote]

Illegals don't have a good life, not by a standard I would want for myself. They are constantly avoiding situations that can get them arrested. They have no identification for living a normal life. They live from day to day, one day at a time. No future. All that human misery to keep a city from collapsing? It's cruel of us to use them like that.

@sree251 I think it’s a mutually satisfactory relationship. Our dollars make there way back to home relatives. Also, people go back and forth accords the border as opportunities arise. I see a lot of pretty happy with in tact families. They laugh a lot more than white people do. Many parties, gatherings, etc.

@Bumbles [quote] I think it’s a mutually satisfactory relationship. Our dollars make there way back to home relatives. Also, people go back and forth accords the border as opportunities arise. I see a lot of pretty happy with in tact families. They laugh a lot more than white people do. Many parties, gatherings, etc. [/quote]

I believe your account of their situation. I have seen that also in Asia. They sneak across borders. Some have papers and passports. Yes, they laugh a lot regardless. I have seen them at friends' homes serving me food and drinks on bended knee. The women leave their small children behind in their villages to work abroad. They return once a year bringing back money and presents. Their situation upset me; and yet, their lot is much better than the illegals holding up your city.

@sree251 I wouldn’t be comfortable with any bended knee. It’s more transactional than a servant situation. I value what they provide which is why I’m a moderate when it comes to immigration. There is a need for labor, and available workers. The border shouldn’t make that impossible.

By one estimate 25 billion dollars is sent back home per year. That is a much more efficient method of foreign aid than it going to taxes, paid out, the skimmed off the top.

@Bumbles [quote] I wouldn’t be comfortable with any bended knee. It’s more transactional than a servant situation. [/quote]

It could be transactional if the bended knee was that of a Flipina at the coffee lounge of the Four Seasons in Hong Kong but I was in Kuala Lumpur; and one time, one of them maids, a Cambodian, prostrated herself before me, Thai style, as though I was that King in Bangkok. I liked that. The white man still has a powerful aura in Asia.

[quote] I value what they provide which is why I’m a moderate when it comes to immigration. There is a need for labor, and available workers. The border shouldn’t make that impossible. [/quote]

The Chinese also provide labor and I am stunned by the cheap prices of stuff at the Big Box stores and what I could order on Amazon, all made in China. They must be breaking their backs for us at 15 cents an hour. And yet, we would encircle them with our military bases in South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines over their province of Taiwan.

The illegals in the US are something else. If we let them in, we must ensure that they are all given the basic rights to live here like us without hiding from the law.

[quote] By one estimate 25 billion dollars is sent back home per year. That is a much more efficient method of foreign aid than it going to taxes, paid out, the skimmed off the top. [/quote]

There is no reason why we can't have that without making them suffer. We could easily legislate that by given them exemption from taxes.