US refugee crisis: a moral litmus test of white American Christian response.

@MistyCee No, Misty. The selfishness you see in America today is not Christian but that of atheism. The church has been separated from state. The US Government has turned America into a rogue nation.

@sree251 Trump and his MAGAt cultists did that with their isolationist ideology.

@sree251 Skipping the atheist/government stuff, what I meant was I was wondering if anyone would say [i]yes[/i] to selfishness being a reflexion of Jesus' own nature.

That would be a take on him that I've not heard before.

@MistyCee [quote] Skipping the atheist/government stuff, what I meant was I was wondering if anyone would say yes to selfishness being a reflexion of Jesus' own nature.

That would be a take on him that I've not heard before. [/quote]

You are changing the context of the thread created for dealing with Elwood Blues.

Would Catholic Joe Biden's selfishness be a reflexion on Jesus' own nature? Is that your question? Colbert claims it would be if America is a Christian nation and Joe stops migrants at the border. Joe has thrown open the borders and not stopping migrants from sharing the bounty with Christians.

In answer to your specific question, whatever Joe does - selfish or not - has no reflexion on Jesus' own nature.

@sree251 Thanks for answering my question. I didnt know why you created the thread, btw, and didn't mean to take it off topic.

@MistyCee I like your question. It helps clarifies that the migrant situation is a state matter.

@MistyCee [quote]I really want to hear someone answer this one:


Are white Christian American selfishness a reflection of Jesus' own nature?[/quote]

The Jesus character never gave anyone any money. He was a free-loader who sponged off of his rich buddies. And when he had the opportunity to sell some costly perfume and give the money to the poor, he said "hell no" because he need it more than they did.

@Diotrephes Ewwww. He doesn't sound like such a great role model to me.

@MistyCee [quote]Ewwww. He doesn't sound like such a great role model to me.[/quote]
The storytellers, writers and artists who created the Bible in the 680s-690s based all of the stories in the Old and New Testaments on one or more of the real Ten Commandments (Exodus 34:11-28). They also were very clever in including clues that it was also just an elaborate hoax. Since no one had anything to compare it to it was almost impossible to see it. But now it is easier when you use a computer. For every positive thing there are four or five things that are in complete opposition. People will never see it as long as they get their religion from silly Hollywood movies and conmen prosperity preachers.

IMO, it's best to read it for yourself and to take notes in your own words about what you read As you continue to make notes and review them you will then see the light.

@MistyCee [quote] Ewwww. He doesn't sound like such a great role model to me. [/quote]

Are you swallowing one person's perception and make it your own? The Jesus character is a story about someone 2000 years ago. The crucial question is about white Christian American selfishness. What does it reflect? Look around you at people now, real people whose conduct you can evaluate in real time for yourself. Are white Christian American selfishness a reflection of your own nature? This is easy to ascertain.

@sree251 More like tasting than swallowing. I dont know Jesus, dont worship him and haven't ever understood all of the beliefs surrounding him, but I'm not totally ignorant, either, for a non-Christian.

Still, the thing I've always picked up from Jesus is a softer, gentler and selfless sort of vibe.

This intrigued me.

@sree251 [quote]Are you swallowing one person's perception and make it your own? The Jesus character is a story about someone 2000 years ago. The crucial question is about white Christian American selfishness. What does it reflect? Look around you at people now, real people whose conduct you can evaluate in real time for yourself. Are white Christian American selfishness a reflection of your own nature? This is easy to ascertain.[/quote]

Each person is supposed to be his/her own best friend because if you are not well adjusted it is almost impossible to help someone else. That means that each individual must come first before anyone else. That does not make the person selfish. I doubt if anyone is always selfish. Stand up and put your hands on your butt. That is all you can depend on. Other people can help you, love you, and even be in love with you but when it's all said and done, each and everyone stands alone.

[b] Realistically, we are all alone in this world[/b]
https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/comments/7pox5l/realistically_we_are_all_alone_in_this_world/

[b]You Need To Learn To Stand Alone[/b]
https://steemit.com/motivation/@audreybits/you-need-to-learn-to-stand-alone-3f71081b5ae38est

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@MistyCee [quote] Still, the thing [b]I've always picked up from Jesus [/b]is a softer, gentler and selfless sort of vibe.

This intrigued me. [/quote]

The Jesus you picked up from has to be a depiction, an image in your mind. Did you watch a Jesus movie?

@sree251 A couple of movies maybe, more history channel documentaries, and exposure to sermons at weddings, funerals and conversations with people.

I've picked up the New Testament a couple of times, but never really studied it.

@Diotrephes [quote] Each person is supposed to be his/her own best friend because if you are not well adjusted it is almost impossible to help someone else. [/quote]

You must have pondered on this a lot.

The notion of being a person among many people has been a mystery to me. Is this a notion of mine, or is it the same opinion held by you[b] as another me[/b]?

In other words, there is essentially only one person in existence repeated 8 billion times. And yet, each manifestation of me - you, for instance - perceives me as another separate person.