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US foreign policy needs realism.

Americans can't go on protecting the world without economic self-sufficiency, and national unity.
sree251 · 41-45, M
American farms have the capability to could grow enough food for the world but we must use American workers, not migrant workers, to do all the work.

American industries have the capacity to manufacture everything for the world but we must use American workers, not rely on workers in China to do all the work.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Reason10 [quote] Last time that came even close to happening was (a) during the Reagan administration and (b) during the Trump administration. Taxes were cut and manufacturing jobs from the far east just MAGICALLY APPEARED here.

If you want jobs for Americans, CUT TAXES on the job creators. They'll build more plants here because THEY DO NOT WANT TO BUILD PLANTS OVERSEAS if they can afford not to.

Make creating jobs affordable in the US, like the two greatest presidents of all time. (Reagan and Trump.) [/quote]

I am for cutting taxes. Money in the control of American entrepreneurs is better managed than money in the hands of US politicians. American labor must compete with foreign labor doing the same jobs. We have to change our attitude towards hard work and productiveness. Making a billion dollars playing basketball is not productive. Neither is making a billion dollars prancing on the stage singing songs. This kind of work ethic leads to collapse of society. Fighting wars is the way of a rogue nation.
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@sree251 This is cool. You have intelligent responses to the information.
About that "attitude towards hard work and productiveness," you may not understand what is going on there.
NBA basketball players are paid those millions of dollars based on the ability of their name to draw and pack arenas full of sports fans who pay upwards to $1000 a ticket to watch a game. That's big business, for sure. The NAME is the sellable commodity.
Same thing with rock stars who sell out concerts, with ticket prices starting at $200 a pop. (And over the years, rock stars have rarely made any real money on sales of their records. Yeah, I know. There aren't any records any more. That means most of the most modern pop music can be had on Youtube for Free, with the only exceptions being music sold on venues like Spotify.) Rock stars have always made most of their money in personal appearances. That's where the money is.

Are they (pro athletes, rock stars) actually worth all that money? To those who would never set foot inside one of their concerts, of course not. But apparently it's a lucrative enough business for them to continue plying their trade for all that dough.

If that seems strange or even unfair to you, just remember that someone a long time ago became a millionaire marketing the PET ROCK.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
The US Government must stop using espionage to cultivate corrupt assets for destabilizing foreign governments.

The US Government must stop fighting foreign wars, either directly or thru proxies, on the pretext of defending freedom and human rights.

US foreign wars since Vietnam to the present have caused influx of refugees of alien cultures antagonistic to each other into the American population. No effort has been made to assimilate those immigrants into the host culture to assure national cohesion. This has turned the American homeland into a fractious hotbed of internecine strife.
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@sree251 @sree251 @sree251 [quote]The US Government must stop using espionage to cultivate corrupt assets for destabilizing foreign governments.[/quote

Can you name those governments? Those countries?

[quote]The US Government must stop fighting foreign wars, either directly or thru proxies, on the pretext of defending freedom and human rights.[/quote]

Actually the GREATEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME (Trump) brought us pretty close to that. Besides doing more for world peace than even Alfred Nobel, he came up with the idea that the countries our military are protecting should PAY US for that protection.

[quote][quote]US foreign wars since Vietnam to the present have caused influx of refugees of alien cultures antagonistic to each other into the American population No effort has been made to assimilate those immigrants into the host culture to assure national cohesion. This has turned the American homeland into a fractious hotbed of internecine strife.
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Not really. Legitimate immigrants have always given their best efforts to assimilate, become AMERICANS.

You might be thinking of THESE animals, in the assimilation discussion.

sree251 · 41-45, M
@Reason10 [quote] Actually the GREATEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME (Trump) brought us pretty close to that. Besides doing more for world peace than even Alfred Nobel, he came up with the idea that the countries our military are protecting should PAY US for that protection. [/quote]

Trump is a businessman. Corporate America has always been the best driver of American foreign policy: every culture loves American products and lifestyle trends.

Trumps ability to step into North Korea after calling Kim Jong Un Rocket Man was astounding. That fat kid really liked Trump; not just personal charm but Trump's common sense. The US President saw the reason why Kim was agitated by our inane war exercises with South Korea and the wastefulness of flying B2 Bombers from Guam just to flex muscles. His calling off the exercises was key to calming the waters. Trump could also reach out to Xi Jinping and Putin. The only US President with that kind of reach across cultural divides was Nixon with Mao Tze Tung.

[quote] Not really. Legitimate immigrants have always given their best efforts to assimilate, become AMERICANS.

You might be thinking of THESE animals, in the assimilation discussion. [/quote]

Yes, refugees of US foreign wars and southern border migrant invasions are destructive to American society.

There seems to be a deliberate push to destroy America's white Christian cultural core with massive influx of refugees and migrants fleeing failed states.
Invading other countries and taking control of their energy is americas/NATOS business model..

Err sorry , what I meant to say was.. spreading democracy.. 👍😎
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I[quote]nvading other countries and taking control of their energy is americas/NATOS business model.. [/quote]

What country did we do that in?

We SHARED internal combustion technology with Saudi Arabia and make that sand pit one of the richest areas on the planet. And we spend BILLIONS of dollars in military spending to protect those rich ragheads. We didn't invade them.

In fact, America has "Invaded" NOBODY.

I know. You're referring to Iraq, probably, (mostly because your education may consist of watching THE VIEW).

If invading Iraq was the goal, America would OWN those oil wells and put the rest of the Middle East out of business. American left a Democratically elected Iraq government after taking Saddam down.

It was in incompetent idiot (Obama) who left American military hardware behind and that's where ISIS came from.
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@Vin53 [quote]The US is producing more oil then ever in our country's history. Keep hoping that 1 out every 20 of your lies don't get called out.[/quote]

That was true during the Trump administration. Unelected Joe SLASHED domestic energy production and caused gasoline prices to skyrocket.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
US Foreign policy has much more to do with protecting Americas economic interests than anything else in the world. Its just a shame those economic interests keep the money while sending the average American the bill..😷
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman @whowasthatmaskedman
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US Foreign policy has much more to do with protecting Americas economic interests than anything else in the world. Its just a shame those economic interests keep the money while sending the average American the bill..[/quote]

If that is the case, (and this is the first time I've ever heard it mentioned) then we should kick out EVERY Democrat in government and pass a law that the ideology cannot be allowed to run for public office. So far, Democrat foreign policy has been DISASTROUS for America's economic interested, but we've gotten the bill anyway.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Reason10 In which world does this only apply to the Democrats? Both sides of US politics have been more or less equally bought by the same money..."Big (fill in the special interest industry) Rules!"😷
meJess · F
Or understanding that the rest of the world does things differently
meJess · F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow sometimes people don’t want foreign protection and that creates unseen consequences
@meJess Even the assumption that it is "protection" is based on propaganda, not reality. That claim is and always has been a pretext or propaganda to justify completely selfish goals.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@meJess [quote] Or understanding that the rest of the world does things differently [/quote]

As individual Americans, our understanding of other cultures is not the same as that of US government policy makers who are driven by the national interest. Theirs is a totally different perspective. The US as a nation has alienated itself from the people similar to the story of The Animal Farm.
Vin53 · M
Ever hear of NATO? Not only that, we're getting off cheap. We have Ukraine wearing down Russia and we have no losses.
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@Vin53 @Vin53 [quote][quote]vEer hear of NATO? Not only that, we're getting off cheap. We have Ukraine wearing down Russia and we have no losses.[/quote][/quote]

Considering the HUGE amount of tax collars Unelected Joe has sent to Ukraine, nobody would say we're getting off cheap.
Reason10 · 61-69, M
Foreign policy was sane during the last legally elected presidency. (Trump.)

sree251 · 41-45, M
@Reason10 Deep State defines US foreign policy no matter who is in the White House. Trump does have some capability in reaching out to bridge geopolitical divides.
Reason10 · 61-69, M
@sree251 @sree251 [quote][quote][quote]Deep State defines US foreign policy no matter who is in the White House. Trump does have some capability in reaching out to bridge geopolitical divides.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

You won't get any argument from me on that point.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Reason10 [quote] You won't get any argument from me on that point. [/quote]

You have a good name, Reason. It suits you.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
I prefer American involvement
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@sree251 It was always set up to be run by a ruling elite. It is literally designed that way with the trappings of a government by the people.


I am saying it was founded by entitled rich guys and is largely still run by entitle rich guys who are almost exclusively white even now.


Actually the US was never a Christian nation. And never even exclusively white. It was white supremacist.

And sure there were alot of people involved that were nominally Christian but the people who founded it were quick vocal about the fact that they were not founding the country based on any religious principles and even thought such an idea was disastrous.

And to claim that someone's culture is Christian based on the fact that some in the community sat in a pew once a week at some point in history is a huge stretch.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow [quote] It was always set up to be run by a ruling elite. It is literally designed that way with the trappings of a government by the people. [/quote]

Perhaps, we are living under the illusion that we are all equal under God. Some of us are smarter than others. The US Constitution is cleverly written to protray an equal playing field.

[quote] I am saying it was founded by entitled rich guys and is largely still run by entitle rich guys who are almost exclusively white even now. [/quote]

The founding fathers were not entitled rich guys. They were oppressed by the British King.

[quote] Actually the US was never a Christian nation. And never even exclusively white. It was white supremacist. [/quote]

There were no white supremacists. There were colonialists kicked around and oppressed by the British King.
@sree251 I am sorry you failed history class and took fairy tales 101 instead.
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