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Only 5 SCOTUS members believe in the Supremacy Clause

Only 5 Supreme Court Justices Believe In The Supremacy Clause And That's A Real Fricking Problem
The right wing of the Supreme Court is playing a dangerous game.
By KATHRYN RUBINO
January 23, 2024 at 3:45 PM

Last night, the Supreme Court’s shadow docket struck again. In a 5-4 decision (without any written opinion), the Court held in Department of Homeland Security v. Texas that the federal government can do their job. That may sound like a glib summary of the facts, but it isn’t inaccurate. The underlying Fifth Circuit decision, which was vacated, really allowed the state of Texas to use razor wire to stop federal agents from doing their job — specifically federal border agents were unable to approach migrants in the course of their duties thanks to the Fifth Circuit.

If you’ve given the Constitution even the most cursory of glances, you’re probably thinking OF COURSE that is the result. It should be an easy victory for the federal government. The Supremacy Clause is pretty clear, that federal law “shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby.” And there’s 80+-year-old precedent making it crystal that “the supremacy of the national power in the general field of foreign affairs, including power over immigration, naturalization and deportation, is made clear by the Constitution.”

But folks, it was 5-4 — not the 9-0 you should expect.

The truth is, despite what right-wing pundits are parroting, this is highly disturbing. The Supremacy Clause is not a controversial doctrine — it’s well-established and should have easily resulted in a decision against Texas. The fact that four justices put aside the actual Constitution in this case should tell us something. (Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Barrett joined the three liberal justices in the majority.)

And it’s something we’ve known for a minute now — at least if you’ve been paying attention. The majority of justices appointed by Republicans may have sworn they adhere to a strict judicial philosophy, bound by the original or textual understand of the underlying law, but that’s a lie. Here a true originalist or textualist would have thrown their vote with the majority, yet four so-called conservatives have ditched that in favor of their preferred policy outcome.

And the Texas Governor hasn’t taken his narrow loss particularly well — he’s openly defying the Court’s order.

The minority’s cavalier attitude towards the literal words in the Constitution has emboldened a power-hungry politician just itching to start the next Civil War. When things are, you know, testy, a unified Court (especially on such a gimmie issue) speaks volumes. There’s a reason Earl Warren held out for an unanimous Court in Brown v. Board of Ed. Otherwise everyone just thinks their own personal interpretation of the Constitution is valid, regardless of what the majority holds.

Nothing about this is going to end well.

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This author (and the slavishly leftist poster) read an awful lot into a one sentence ruling. We do not know (literally) what the justices were thinking.
Here is a hypothetical. Clearly, the Constitution carves out areas of federal supremacy. But what if the federal government ignores its responsibility, as the Executive branch has done. Is there NO recourse? Are there no legal doctrines which might allow some relief? Does an individual state, which has general police powers and which is especially impacted by the lawless federal administration, entirely lack remedies, perhaps under the 10th Amendment? We won't know. But JSul is so damn sure, isn't he?
JSul3 · 70-79
@LamontCranston I raise concern because you either believe in the Constitution or you don't.
What if Roberts & Barret had sided with their conservative brethren? That would end the Supremacy clause (just as Roberts removed a federal protection in the Voting Rights Act that has resulted in a number of suppressive voting laws to be passed in some red states.)

The Federal government controls the borders. Just like the right to seek amnesty, if you hate the law, then go through the process to change it. You don't ignore the law like Abbott is doing.
Ignoring the law is breaking the law.

You do believe in the law, do you not?

I despise the Shadow Docket. When a judgement is made, I want to hear both sides opinions on the matter.
@JSul3 Y ou talk arrant nonsense, JSul33! A different vote would only have brought the issue forward for consideration. There would be a lot to argue, hear and consider before a decision was made.
Your facile interpretation is just abit too slick.
This administration has not only abdicated its border responsibilities but abused them. The issue deserves full consideration by the Court.Biden/Mayorkas are breaking the law. You are their running dog.
JSul3 · 70-79
@LamontCranston Breaking the law? Any persons crossing the border illegally are committing a misdemeanor, not a felony. Those crossing illegally are surrendering to border patrol and seeking asylum. They have the right, by law, to seek asylum and have their case heard in a court of law, and a judgement made on their claim.

You don't like the law? Go through the process to change it.

The Party of Trump refuses to pass a funding bill for more border agents and judges. They refuse to govern.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 So how about enforcing the laws already on the books?
@JSul3 @JSul3 You do buy the party line, don't you. Gee, only a misdemeanor! How about that? The administration wants money for "processing", not enforcement.
They should remain in Mexico or another country while their (overwhelmingly) frivolous asylum cases are decided-as was done in the previous administration.
But, progrssive spokespuppy, the real question is whether there was a real legal issue before the Supreme Court. The impact of these policies were such a burden on Texas, because of its location as the primary pathway for the mobs of illegals, that there might be legal issues. States have plenipotentiary powers not specifically granted to the federal government or restricted by the constitution. Texas has legitimate interests to protect. I cannot for example see how closing off a particular, limited access point for reasons of safety or security would be prohibited.
But you took the WaPo, MSNBC answer gullibly, or perhaps you are malevolently callous to the welfare of the country.
JSul3 · 70-79
@LamontCranston The LAW states that entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor.

Don't like the law? Get it changed.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Since when do the left-wing nut-job marxists like you obey the law?
JSul3 · 70-79
@JSul3 My point is that a misdemeanor is a CRIME. Look it up.
JSul3 · 70-79
@LamontCranston I am fully aware what a misdemeanor is.

A misdemeanor is a type of offense punishable under criminal law. A misdemeanor is typically a crime punishable by less than 12 months in jail. Community service, probation, fines, and imprisonment for less than a year are commonly issued punishments for misdemeanors. More grievous crimes, felonies, carry stiffer penalties, including jail time of more than 12 months. Many states classify misdemeanors under different categories depending on the seriousness of the crime and its punishment. In most cases, if a misdemeanor is not classified by a letter grade in the section defining it, the misdemeanor is classified as follows:

Class A: if the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is one year or less but more than six months.
Class B: if the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is six months or less but more than thirty days.
Class C: if the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is thirty days or less but more than five days.
However, some states do not classify misdemeanors by categories. Thus, the sentencing is made on a crime-by-crime basis.

First Punishment for Crossing Border Illegally
When a person is caught illegally crossing the border—lawfully known as an improper entry—the first offense may include:

Civil penalty fine of $50 to $250
Imprisonment for up to six months
Both fines and imprisonment
Second Punishment for Crossing Border Illegally
If a person is found re-entering the United States illegally, the civil penalty fine is twice the amount of the first fine. The legal penalties of subsequent reentry include:

A civil penalty fine
Imprisonment for up to two years
Both fines and imprisonment.


Do you know what seeking asylum is?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Yup, flooding the country with illegal aliens to aid in the destruction of the Constitutional Republic
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649 LOL!
Do you support closing down companies that hire illegal immigrants?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 You meant to say illegal aliens....
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649 So....answer the question.
@JSul3 You can cut and paste with the best. You treat it like spitting on the sidewalk. And miss the whole point. There is a legal issue whivch the Court should have addressed, as reviously pointed out to you.
JSul3 · 70-79
@LamontCranston I am proud of my ability to cut and paste.
Thank you for your support.
@JSul3 Yo continue to flog this issue. Unfortunately your talents stop there.
JSul3 · 70-79
@LamontCranston We need immigration reform. The Party of Trump residing in the House refuse to govern. If they pass a bill and it becomes law, they and their Orange Messiah no longer have a talking point to run on.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Bullschiff. biden created it with the stroke of a pen, biden can fix it with the stroke of a pen
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649 Executive Orders are not the law. EO's can be challenged in the courts....and many times they are.
Congress makes the laws and sends them to the president to sign into law or veto. With enough votes, Congress can override a president's veto.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 LOL, biden created the mess with the stroke of his pen, eliminating at least 9 of President Trump's orders on border security, with a stroke of his pen he can reverse his bullschiff orders