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No state solution: Would dissolution of Israel bring peace?

This suggestion is prompted by John Lennon's song "Imagine" about a world with no countries. To be precise, a world with no nation states. Americans ought to take the lead and initiate the dissolution of the USA in the same fashion as the ending of the Soviet Union.

People, of various different cultures, have been living naturally together among each other until their subjugation by divisive ideological power groups through the formation of governments. Power groupings are divisive.

Governments are corporations run by elites to control citizens for the achievement of nefarious agendas. Business enterprises are also corporations run by elites to gain profit at the expense of workers and minority shareholders.

Humanity are people. Governments are not, and they possess people the way the mind, when driven by rage, possess the body and commit it to kill other human bodies.
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helenS · 36-40, F
"Dissolution of Israel" would be a very good idea – all Jewish people could easily be tortured and killed by our Islamist friends after Israel has ended. It would be so much fun. A real field day for so many anti-colonialists, wokies and "Queers for Palestine"..

Too bad it's not that easy to "dissolve" Israel – they have nukes...


#FuckGaza
DDaverde · 61-69, M
@helenS
No way you both are delusional!
@helenS They do!! And will use them if they have to! They will be like ‘Samson’ and die with their enemies if it came down to that, but I promise you on the authority of God’s own word that it won’t happen at this time…
helenS · 36-40, F
@Unefilletrescurieuse Israel almost had to, during the Ramadan War, in 1973, when the cowards attacked to country from all sides.
@helenS I know. I’ve been researching Golda… she was a woman that has her head on straight and faced the devil square in the face!
helenS · 36-40, F
@Unefilletrescurieuse Golda – one of the greatest women of our time!

🌷🇮🇱🌷
@helenS I saw the movie and was deeply touched…
helenS · 36-40, F
@Unefilletrescurieuse I haven't seen it – is it worth watching?
@helenS I thought so… I’d buy it. I think much more could have been told that the movie doesn’t bring out.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@Unefilletrescurieuse God is a invention of men to try and control others. And, even if there is such a thing, history has demonstrated he / she doesnt give a shit about what humans do.
SW-User
@22Michelle The people who worry me most are the secular Jewish people. The ones that accept the traditions and customs but do not believe in God.

There seems to be no compassion towards the people of the Gaza Strip.

Hamas too is a disgrace to humanity, and should be condemned by the Islamic world. Strangely it is not.
22Michelle · 70-79, T
@SW-User i would disagree. Most secular Jews seem to accept the two state solution. The ultra Zionist / religious settlers won't accept anything other than " from the Jordan river to the sea" and the expulsion of all Palestinians. That includes the many Christian Palestinians, a group that is often sidelined if not ignored.
As for condemnation of Hamas by Islamic people, well I've heard plenty. Where you may be right is condemnation by leaders of Islamic states. However, those states are usually not democratic and are unwilling to make statements that may make them more unpopular.
Here in the west whilst there has been condemnation of Hamas the response to Israeli action in Gaza has been more muted. And this has been the case for over 70 years.
Personally I don't see any chance of peace in the next 20 years, abd that's assuming leaders on both sides try to bring peace about. What's happening in Gaza is the best recruitment call that Hamas could wish for. Until / unless the USA stops bankrolling Israel, and supplying it with weapons there will be no pressure on Israel to negotiate.
SW-User
@22Michelle I stand corrected. It is such a complex subject.

Like you, I see no early solution. Just woe.