@USA577140813 So you're suggesting Gazans get into BDSM as a solution to their problems?

@Northwest no sir.. unless they into it…. The question was how I’d react to the situation, not what I think Gazans should do. The fact check only educates the ignorant that this calamity is a far more complicated mess than simply blaming Israel. Everyone involved has blood on their hands including Hamas who has ruled since 2007 and purposely allowed their civilian population to suffer and live in destitute in the name of destroying Israel.

@Fukfacewillie Zionist apologists that don't understand a simple fact that the conflict is older than Hamas, can't really be reasoned with. :) what you have are narrow opinions and your ego has convinced you that any opinions you hold are "facts".

Have a nice day, Mr Jihad. 👍

@LeopoldBloom You said:"However, the Palestinian question has to be addressed and the only possible solution is an independent Palestinian state."

Seems to me that an independent Palestinian state implies one thing: telling Palestinians to give up their homeland which has now been appropriated to become Israel for Jews. How would you like it if I were to take possession of your home because my grandfather used to owned it, and tell you to made do with building another home on land set aside for you in the backyard?

I suppose the Jews, who want Israel, have to persist in asserting their right to take Palestinian land to form Israel regardless of the resistance from any quarter. The alternative for a peaceful resolution is obvious. It does behoove them to win the hearts and minds of Palestinians and work out an equitable way to live together. They could even offer to give up the idea of Israel and come up with a name for a homeland for everyone in the state of "Holy Land". A secular constitution that protects the practice of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. What do you think of this idea?

@sree251 It's not a Palestinian homeland and never was one. You seem to be following the historically ignorant view that Palestinians are native to that area while Jews are foreign invaders. In reality, both groups include indigenous and foreign elements. However, both of them have lived there for a while and are entitled to stay there as they both have legitimate claims to the land. Until you educate yourself on Israeli history and stop seeing this as a Middle Eastern version of the US Army fighting the Lakota, you're not qualified to discuss this.

Given the events of Oct. 7, the only viable option is two separate states. I'd love to see the federation of self-governing cantons proposed by former president Rivlin, but neither side wants or is ready for that. The solution is a separate Palestinian state consisting of Gaza and the West Bank alongside Israel.

It sucks that some Palestinians were displaced in 1948 when the Arab armies attacked Israel with the goal of obliterating it, and Israel not only won, it captured more land. You're going to have to accept the fact that Israel isn't going anywhere. But for its own long term welfare, it needs to separate itself from Palestine and grant the people their independence.

@LeopoldBloom You said: "It's not a Palestinian homeland and never was one. You seem to be following the historically ignorant view that Palestinians are native to that area while Jews are foreign invaders."

The Palestinians, along with other people including Jews, ARE native to that area whereas European Jews are not. Israel is a project of European Jews who have occupied land of natives to that area to form Israel.

You said: "Until you educate yourself on Israeli history and stop seeing this as a Middle Eastern version of the US Army fighting the Lakota, you're not qualified to discuss this."

There is no Israeli history. Israel did not exist until it was created in 1948. It is fascinating to observe how you can assert something that is taken out of the Hebrew Bible (Genesis 32:28). The Israel that God gave to Jacob has no connection to the Israel created by the British and endorsed by the UN in 1947. Is Zionism a religious cult or what?

You said: "Until you educate yourself on Israeli history and stop seeing this as a Middle Eastern version of the US Army fighting the Lakota, you're not qualified to discuss this."

This is not a nice thing to say. You are cancelling me out the way Zionist (European) Jews are cancelling out Palestinians. Unless you see me and you as first among equals, there is no rapport and useful dialogue, the kind that bridges any divide. You don't have the only right view, and neither do I. Assuming that you do, is the real cause of conflict, and the war in Palestine. A supremacist attitude is the problem. You can have your way until you become the underdog and get crushed by a superior force as we saw in Hitler's Germany. The Palestinians in Gaza are getting a dose of what Jews suffered in WW2. Same brutality.

@LeopoldBloom
Victims of oppression are victims of oppression. You're admitting that they are victims of oppression, as well as oppression is taking place. I don't care if they're the love children of Ghanidi and Mother Theresa, or Manson disciples. The key term here is oppression.

It's also a surrender to propaganda.. The largely Muslim crowds demonstrating in Europe's capitals, are not drawing a clear line between Hamas and actual victims of oppression, because Hamas is a also a primary oppressor of the Palestinian people.

However, saying that Israel needs to stop the carnage , and calling it what it is, does not automatically brand someone as a Jew hater.

@Northwest It goes beyond just calling for a cease-fire. People are expressing sympathy with Hamas and opposing the existence of Israel as a country. I don't think this will have any effect on government policy, and eventually when the war ends, people will move on to other concerns. But it does show how many people feel.

@LeopoldBloom
Yes, of course. Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, Houthis, and all Islamic militant entities, want their brand of Islam to "liberate" Jerusalem.

There is hope for Iran, as it seems as the average Iranian wants to free themselves from the Mullahs, but the others need to be neutralized, just not the way Netanyahu is going about it now, tossing the baby out with the bathwater.

Let's also not forget that the Netanyahu brand of Israelis also want to kick non-Jews out of the land of Israel, from the river to the sea (the same slogan Rashida Tlaib is using), dead or alive.

@Fukfacewillie They don't have a regime anymore than we have one in the America.
Governments have agenda of their own regardless of wishes of their citizenry.

@sree251 You're not a serious person.