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What If Monty's "Operation Market Garden" Had Succeeded?

The ultimate goal of the operation has been deemed by historians as "a bridge too far" and perhaps it really was overly ambitious. But bad luck did play a role and if Market Garden had succeeded in all of its goals, the war in Europe perhaps ends by Christmas 1944, early January 1945 at the latest.

Berlin thus falls to combined American, British and Canadian forces; the Red Army is still fighting its way thru Poland, not having captured Waraw.

The Soviets would have still had an occupation zone in Berlin, but it would have been surrounded by western Allies' occupying forces and not the other way around. (So there's no Berlin Airlift necessary in 1948).

Since there would not have been any formal agreement with respects to the post-war borders of Poland (the Tehran Conference in November 1943 informally set the eastern border roughly along the Curzon Line of 1920 and not ratified until the Potsdam Conference of 1945), Poland emerges post-war with more of its pre-war territory intact. Although the Polish borders would likely have still been moved somewhat westward, the post-war Polish government would be the one that was in exile, not a communist one installed by the Soviets.

Nearly all of pre-war Czechoslovakia would be occupied by the western Allies after Germany's surrender, including Prague, as the Soviets hadn't begun their fighting into present day Slovakia until January 1945.

Perhaps up to one million Jews survive from the Nazi death camps, many of whom would immigrate to the newly formed state of Israel in 1948.

The first successful test of the atomic bomb was still a half a year away. But President Roosevelt is still alive and, with V-E Day having taken place before his 4th inaugural, he might not have been as hasty in negotating for Soviet help in dealing with Japan in February 1945 at Yalta with Germany now already defeated. Roosevelt may well have agreed for the return of South Sakhalin Island, which had been taken from Russia by Japan in the Russo-Japanese War in 1905, to the Soviets, but the cession of Kuril Islands once Japan was defeated might have been too much for Roosevelt's agreement.

WIth all of Germany occupied by the western Allies, the French zone of occupation is surely not going to be carved out of the U.S. and U.K. zones. It will be equal in size to that of the Soviets' zone. French leader General Charles de Gaulle is therefore almost certainly going to be invited to any post-war conference. It probably won't even be at Yalta, given Germany's rapid defeat.

Large numbers of U.S. troops are quickly heading to the Pacific, along with ships and aircraft. The fire-bombing of Tokyo likely happens two months sooner, weather permitting. Likewise, too, with the invasion of Okinawa. Iwo Jima falls in late January. With Germany's defeat, Japan is now suffering from nearly a two-fold intensity in air raids. Shore bombardment by U.S. and Royal Navy battleships happen in February 1945 instead of July and destroy the Japanese governments propaganda claims to its citizens of invicibility. All in all, Japan's precarious position is at a point now in late February or early March 1945 that it didn't actually reach until late July. Moreover, with or without any agreement on Soviet help to defeat Japan, Stalin abrogates the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact and the Red Army in February 1945 launches a massive attack against Japanese positions in Manchuria.

Would it still take two atomic bombs in August 1945 to shock Japanese military leaders to their senses? Or does President Roosevelt's abilities of personal persuasion get Emporer Hirohito to order the militarists to accept the Allies' demands for an unconditional surrender? Would the extra several months Vice President Harry Truman would have had of a world at peace have better prepared him for the presidency?

And if the war does end sooner, does the stress and fatigue of 12+ years in office and leading a nation at war for over three years still cause Roosevelt's fatal massive cerebral haemorrhage (or as some historians now speculate, from melanoma) at age 63 in April 1945? Or does he live a little longer, perhaps to learn of the successful atomic bomb test at Trinty?
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Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Market garden was a daring attempt but one of those ideas based without sufficient intelligence.

The allies were under the impression (or certainly the Americans were) that Belgium was being defended by 'Old men and kids'.
That phrase is mentioned in several American military units re-telling of the war in Europe. Not least by the 506 Infantry Regiment.

The parachute Infantry Regiment had had amazing successes dropping in behind enemy lines and then fighting their way toward a goal and in so doing opening corridors for others to come through.

Unfortunately there were insufficient additions to enable this to happen. So the allies couldn't cut the fuel lines nor the food and ammunition supplies and so the whole thing fell apart.

Had it been successful......who knows. The rest is moot.

Even D-Day. When you think about it, was based on the idea that paratroopers could be dropped behind enemy lines and destroy the huge concrete bunkers overlooking the beaches thus enabling craft to land safely and troops to advance along the beaches into Europe.

But much of that fell apart because the planes were taking fire from the ground and the pilots panicked and issued the 'Jump-light' to the Paratroopers too early thus scattering all their sticks into the wind and miles from the intended target.

Much as it's horrible to have to admit, a lot of the success of D-Day was down to sheer weight of numbers and to some extent the element of surprise thanks to fog shrouding everything for days before.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Picklebobble2 Sheer weight of numbers is almost always the winner in war. The Americans simply replaced the men and the equipment and kept coming. Even in this current human disaster between Israel and Hamas, the missile defence shield Israel was so proud of was defeated by the sheer volume of rockets launched in volley after volley..Just keep sending them until the other side runs out..😷
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@whowasthatmaskedman

Israel knows the "Iron Dome" is not a perfect defense.

A "perfect defense" would have been to blast the rocket-launching sites out of existence. But we both know what that would have meant. Israel's failure was not so much the "Iron Dome" but not maintaining adequate defenses to shoot down para-gliding terrorists out of the skies and stop breaches of the border by armed terrorists.

But when an adversary shields itself among its civilian population, you have to decide whether the lives of your civilians are worth the same or less than those of your adversaries.

If the current group-think of the media and academics in the West who are attacking Israel's policies now had prevailed in World War II, those of us who might be alive would either be goose-stepping or drinking sake.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Now my reply here should in no way be taken as my moral opinon of what is happening here. But from a strategic viewpoint, using Game Theory as a means of selecting tactics I am positive that the Israelis have worked out that emptying Gaza completely and leveling it, destroying everything including the tunnels is the best alternative. After that, they can either put their own people in. Or vet selected Palestinians back in with a Marshall plan type rebuild, to be positive only the "right people" get back..😷