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The Hamas attack was their Alamo.

Americans should be ashamed of the US attitude towards Palestinians fighting for their dignity, their right, and their lives.
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Bumbles · 51-55, M
The only "freedom fighting" I see is the murder of over 1000 innocent Jews. And talk about a spectacular failure. The lives of Palestinians are far worse because now Israel is engaging in its absolute right to destroy Hamas.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Bumbles Well, let's see how far they can go exercising that absolute right you endorse to kill human vermins. The innocent Jews you refer to were once facing the same final solution that Jews swear "never again". Never again for all humans or just for them?
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@sree251 Your premise is flawed; the Jews who died in the Holocaust were not collateral damage in a fight against Jewish terrorists.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 you seem to be blind to why the Israelis are now fighting Hamas! How dare you equate Hamas to the Jews of Europe of the Holocaust!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "How dare you equate Hamas to the Jews of Europe of the Holocaust!"

Hamas is governing the people in Gaza similar to the US government running America. I was equating the people in Gaza to the Jews in Europe.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 I suggest that if you claim not to be antisemitic, you are more careful with what you write: "Well, let's see how far they can go exercising that absolute right you endorse to kill human vermins. The innocent Jews you refer to were once facing the same final solution that Jews swear "never again". Never again for all humans or just for them?"

As to Hamas leading Gaza the way the US Government runs America, you are way off base. Hamas is a terrorist organization, it runs the Gazan's with an iron fist. There has been no election since 2007! Hamas has had since 2006 to govern the people more appropriately. It spent most of its funds to build tunnels, build missiles and other offensive weapons. Had it accepted the validity of Israel's existence and signed a treaty with Israel, it could have used its funds to develop infrastructure, to build a waterfront for commerce, etc., it could have made live for the Gazans far better and the region would not be in the situation it is in now.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "Hamas is a terrorist organization, it runs the Gazan's with an iron fist."

This is your perspective. There are people who view America as the Great Satan and the US as a terrorist state. Our foreign policy is one of endless foreign wars and I can see why we are viewed that way.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 I assume you are such a person! The term the Great Satan is a direct quotation from terrorist actors in the world, Iran being among the biggest terrorist supporting nation in the world.

So, from what you say, you believe Hamas is a sympathetic, supportive organization that has provided wonderfully for the people of Gaza.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "It spent most of its funds to build tunnels, build missiles and other offensive weapons. Had it accepted the validity of Israel's existence and signed a treaty with Israel, it could have used its funds to develop infrastructure, to build a waterfront for commerce, etc., it could have made live for the Gazans far better and the region would not be in the situation it is in now."

If I want to criticize bad governance, I could only look at the inane way our politicians have been squandering taypayers' money on foreign wars instead of taking care of Americans. So, don't get me involved in criticizing what other governments are messing up abroad.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 But, almost all of your comments are blatantly antisemitic, you are now trying to divert that. The money the US is spending is an attempt to provide safety to others. The US has made mistakes, i will give you that, but we are involved in the here and now. Do you also want Russia to have Ukraine?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "Do you also want Russia to have Ukraine?"

Henry Kissinger is the expert on what's going on. He says we are the cause of what's going on in Ukraine.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 Oh, good grief, care to answer my question directly? DO you believe that Russia is right to annex Ukraine? You are so way out as to make me upset that I even respond to your nonsense.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "DO you believe that Russia is right to annex Ukraine?"

Russia did not annex Ukraine. I am cautious about what I read because I don't trust any story about that situation. I have no direct knowledge and have never been to Ukraine or Russia. I just wish that people would just stop fighting and hurting each other. Don't we ever get tired of this unending cycle of violence? America was founded by Christians but we don't ever practice turning the other cheek. Our war machine is always primed to take an eye for an eye even without provocation. Why are we supplying arms to Ukraine for? Russia did nothing to us.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 Russia invaded and annexed Crimes and Georgia. It invaded and tried to annex Ukraine. I am not supplying arms, my country is, in an attempt to help an independent country from being annexed by a bully. I'd suggest you might want to read about that war.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "I am not supplying arms, my country is, in an attempt to help an independent country from being annexed by a bully. I'd suggest you might want to read about that war."

I did try to get a better picture of what I see on TV channels. The only perspective I give some weight to is that of Henry Kissinger. Russia did not annex Georgia where the situation seems to be similar to the of Ukraine. Only parts of Ukraine and Georgia were annexed and protected by Russia because those areas were populated by Russians who don't want to be part of Georgia and Ukraine. Seems to me it is all caused by internecine strife. Same deal in Israel.

As for Crimea, it used to be USSR territory with a Russia population. It is also a base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. The dissolution of the USSR precipitated issues in Crimea, Ukraine, and Georgia. Imagine what would happen if the USA dissolved and all 50 states are left to their own devices. The same thing would happen with latinos pulling one way, liberal and conservative Americans splitting up the various states.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 wow, you are either a Russian agent or blind.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "wow, you are either a Russian agent or blind."

You can blame Henry Kissinger for shaping my perspective. I find his analyses of the situations convincing. He was a Secretary of State, and foreign policy advisor.

Please understand that national borders are arbitrarily drawn. People of every culture live all over the place. This is why creating the state of Israel out of thin air was stupid. The US and UK bear full responsibility for the mess.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 I don't know when he made the statements you claim he did, but when Russian went into Crimea and Georgia they did it in military fashion, not free elections. The USSR was the Stanley shed after WWII partially as a concession to Stalin. The individual countries were forced into the USSR and the people struggled under the communist system. Should Putin now invade Poland, The Czech Republic, Slovakia, Albania, etc., I guess you would say that is also okay. Do you are Putin's puppet.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@samueltyler2 You said: "Should Putin now invade Poland, The Czech Republic, Slovakia, Albania, etc., I guess you would say that is also okay. Do you are Putin's puppet."

Putin will not invade. He has no territorial ambitions while we have 1000 military bases all over the world, and that in itself is more alarming. We bomb other countries at will even without Congressional approval. We are the only bad actor, not Russia. We can project power and fight a war with any small nation in the world with just a carrier strike group. Why do we have such assets for?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@sree251 sure, the US is the satanic force of evil, Russian is such a great nation. Putin only murders his enemies.