Both sides: Stop for a moment and THINK!

Poll - Total Votes: 9

Yes.. The slide into the swamp was apparent then.

No. Sure no place is perfect, But this is America...

Shut Up.. you arent even American. You dont know $h*t..

You can only vote on one answer.

Cast your collective minds back to the twentieth Century and honestly ask yourselves if you could ever have forseen a time when both prospective candidates for President were so individually appalling for whatever reason???😷

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Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

@BohemianBoo No. Everybody knew [i] exactly [/i] what Trump was like even then.
He had spent thirty years cultivating his opinionated stance on a lot of issues and made sure they got media exposure when it suited him to do so.
Yet a majority still preferred to vote for him despite knowing this.

BohemianBoo · M

@Picklebobble2 We knew that Trump was a dumb selfish criminal, but we didn't know how authoritarian he is. Though people with narcissistic personalities do become authoritarian when in positions of power.

Also, Trump lost the popular vote. The majority of people did choose Hillary.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

@BohemianBoo ..... yet you still chose him despite knowing all that.
This is the Problem with U.S. politics.
It attracts [i] the [/i] worst possible candidates and America suffers as a result.

Trump is just a symptom of all that's wrong.
Just as George W. Bush was.
But if people don't even acknowledge their decisions they're bound to make the same again and again

BohemianBoo · M

@Picklebobble2 I didn't choose him. And again, neither did most Americans.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

@BohemianBoo Problem with the way candidates are 'elected' then ?

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Picklebobble2 Even with the worst legal rigging, Trump still got overr 40% of American voters to support him.. So close to half the voting population knew him at his worst and STILL voted for him.. Socrates had a problem with Greek Democracy, believing that voters needed to qualify to vote, by some measure that showed they considered the real issues of the day and didnt just vote for the guy who promised most and asked for least. They rigged the vote that had him put to death.. 😷

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

@whowasthatmaskedman If you don't change the way it works then you're guaranteed to keep getting the same results

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Picklebobble2 No. You dont get it. After 4 years of a totally public Trump debacle in ever respect, he STILL got 40%.. Now how are 40% of Americans that stupid or that corrupted..?

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

@whowasthatmaskedman Back to where we started then aren't we.
Problem looks likely to come to a head if the current 'favourites' for both parties end up as selected Presidential candidates going into the next election

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Picklebobble2 I am sure I am giving way too much credit to both sides here. But I can think of a bunch of good reasons not to want to win this one. The country is going to be going through a rough patch at best..😷

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

@whowasthatmaskedman And [b] that's [/b] what worries the rest of the world !
Two terms of economic uncertainty were always likely thanks largely to covid and recovery from.
But political and economic uncertainty from the largest free market economy in the world ensures instability continues probably for a third term

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Picklebobble2 Quite...Which would be Americas problem, if the world would stand still and wait. But we all have covid and its debt to recover from and the Saudi Oil production/price squeeze will feed everyones inflation and confidence in the future..This will all help China pick off a few more weak UN votes..😷