The woman's role: mother or feminist?

@SoulKey the traditional family is rightly attacked because it isnt equal and allows the man to be a useless moron in the home

@Guitarman123 The useless moron is the woke guy pushing the baby stroller behind the battleaxe on the way to the farmers' market.

@sree251 you typed words but have said nothing

@Guitarman123 In or out of a family, if one doesn't make use of their abilities for the benefit of others, that's a useless moron.

@SoulKey if u say so

@SoulKey god forbid you have a family member in need and cant work

@Guitarman123 Well, there are solutions to that if you brainstorm it.

@sree251
So basically the guy going shopping to feed his children and spending quality time with them is "woke" to you lol. I think you meant it as an insult but you kinda failed if you think about it. Unless spending time with your kids at a farmers market means you're "woke" somehow lols.

@SatanBurger ikr

Not a good example.

@SatanBurger look at you. Attempting to sound smart

@Guitarman123 What I said was smart because he's essentially saying that a guy going grocery shopping to feed his kids and spending time with them is "woke," as if feeding your kids and going grocery shopping is bad. Like ok? That doesn't even make sense.

To be honest I think everyone should know how to cook, it's super attractive having a guy that wants to spend time with his kids and wants to make dinner. As they should.

@SatanBurger that doesn't mean women should be impressed

@Guitarman123 Being impressed has nothing to do with anything as I was addressing the woke bit specifically. The OP used it as if men going grocery shopping and taking care of their kids is a sort of insult, it's not at all. That's the main point, to which you turned it into a whole other thing. The only thing I can think of is my opinion that I also said in relation to that i.e. men cooking is super attractive.

But I can say a fact (a man going grocery shopping to feed his kids is not woke) and an opinion (I think men knowing how to cook is attractive) and that doesn't negate the original point which had nothing to do with my opinion and vice versa.

@SatanBurger You said: "So basically the guy going shopping to feed his children and spending quality time with them is "woke" to you lol."

It's a complex situation that I caricatured to poke fun at woke culture. In the natural world, there is order in familial relationships. Male birds fetch food for their (female) mates tasked with brooding the eggs. Once the eggs are hatched, both parents take part in feeding the young. Male pheasants even brood the eggs after they are laid by the female. There is nothing natural about the buffoon pushing the stroller. He does it for effect. He looks silly and feels silly doing it.

As for cooking, I agree with you. I like cooking. I live alone, and cook all my meals. I like fine dining. White tablecloth, silver and napkins, the whole deal. Candle lit, and with music. My favorite chef was Anthony Bourdaine. Poor guy.

@sree251
Animals can't push their young in a stroller because they're animals and not humans. Animals don't build hospitals either. But I can say that the way other male animals take care of their young, I don't think it's too far off base that male animals would push their young in a stroller if they had the cognitive capacity humans do.

https://www.livescience.com/14651-animal-kingdom-devoted-dads.html

@SatanBurger You said: "Animals can't push their young in a stroller because they're animals and not humans."

Humans are animals also but not natural in the living of their lives. The woke lifestyle is artificial and contrived. Consequently, there is neither devotion nor passion in parenting. Mom doesn't breastfeed because she either has to go to work or don't want to mess up her tits. Dad can't take over the responsibility because he has no boobs. And if he has them, they are not for babies but for his husband. Same deal for the feminist. I could go on with a litany of complaints about the woke family culture. What do you say, Satan?

@sree251 Those are highly specific personal details you likely wouldn't know unless you were in their intimate lives. Which means you're over exaggerating at best.

@SatanBurger You said: "Those are highly specific personal details you likely wouldn't know unless you were in their intimate lives. Which means you're over exaggerating at best."

I am not here to disparage the woke lifestyle. All conventional couples live the same way with regard to parenting when the natural order in life is absent. And it is generally absent for human beings most of the time. Rarely is the human child blessed enough to be born in a good family when not even its parents but its grandparents also are protective of it welfare. Such a stable family structure is not likely to exist in woke culture.