The woman's role: mother or feminist?

The woman's role is primarily at the center of the family to procreate and nurture offspring. In that regard, she is responsible for the physical and moral well-being of humanity.

The woke protects the right of women to sleep around for recreation. No world religion endorses this.

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

A woman can also be a mother and a feminist.

I've met plenty of those.

If women chose to sleep around and not to have kids, its their choice. Same with men. Its called equality. Like how a human being has choice and autonomy.

I'm trying hard not to make personal judgements and say what I think led you to these opinions.

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Burnley123 Yes, that may be their choice..but that choice usually ends up costing the rest of us. So while the choice is theirs, and should stay that way...should we encourage or discourage promiscuity(not solely for women)? Since promiscuity does have a societal cost?

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SamInAZ It's a choice that ends up costing you.

There. I said it.

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Burnley123 No. It windes up costing everyone in the form of taxpayer-funded social services single mothers dominate in usage of.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SamInAZ FFS. Do you ever leave the house? Nobody who is lacking in money chooses to be a single mum. It's a tough life of hard work and few options. Do working-class single mothers get benefits? Yes. They also have two jobs: one looking after kids and one working to put bread on the table. Very few have significant leisure time.

Also (though you are clueless of this) most single-parent families happen due to relationship breakdown. A few happen due to sleeping around and failed contraception but it's rare.

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Burnley123 Uh, yes they do. By their actions...intentions mean diddly squat.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SamInAZ Your actions and intentions mean a massive amount.

Oh...wait

They don't

🤣

sree251 · 41-45, M

@SamInAZ The cost to humanity is incalculable. Wanton sex has brought about diseases. Apart from STD, the use of birth control pills by girls as young as 12, to prevent pregnancies, has health consequences: reproductive health issues and cancers. Then, there are the physical and mental problems associated with abortions. Gun violence. God knows how many people get killed and shot when baby daddies go on the rampage.

Espionage. I was watching "The Day of The Jackal 19723" yesterday. Politicians are brought down by women since Delilah.

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Burnley123 not when it comes to getting knocked up while unwed, homie. If she has sex, she knows getting pregnant is a possibile outcome. Doesn't matter if that wasn't her intention.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SamInAZ And the man has no responsibility for this eventuality because...

BRUUH

@Burnley123 I agree with your first statement. There's nothing in the tenets of feminism that forbids women from being mothers. Saying feminist or mom is a strawman and a false dichotomy.

I think I disagree with the implication of your second statement. I think the genders are equal with regard to sleeping around. I just think they should be equally condemned for their whoredom, while (I imagine) you think they should be equally approved of for their harlotry.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@BRUUHEquality condemned and praised. Same BS. My issue is with the OP's double standards!

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Burnley123 We weren't speaking on the male half of the situation were we? Of course a man has responsibility. 😆
I'm for stable intact families, not the hedonistic chaos that produces single mothers & fatherless children. Obviously I hold men responsible just as much as women.

BRUUH

@Burnley123 I mean I think I agree. He says feminism or motherhood when it's not either or. Male feminists can also be fathers, which is worth nothing.

Just to steal man him as hard as I can, I think the implication is that while these people CAN be parents, their ideology doesn't emphasize parenthood, and actually under values it. Not all women should be mothers; some of these broads should never breed. Same with men and fathers. But as a society, I think motherhood should be celebrated and honored above pretty much everything else; same with fatherhood.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@BRUUH You said: "There's nothing in the tenets of feminism that forbids women from being mothers"

Feminists have no maternal instinct. Cancel culture wipes it out. Without that instinct, they can't raise wholesome offspring.

Pikachu

@SamInAZ

Seems like at best you can be making the argument that single parents are a burden on society but that in no way singles out women or feminist women.
It takes two to tango, as it were.
So surely this criticism is equally leveled against the man these single mothers slept with