Are you woke or dumb?

@Dshhh You asked: "so in your opinion, was that fatality on floyd justified?"

Justified? Of course not. It's just unfortunate and sad that life set him up for a fall, after fall, after fall, till he ended up beneath the weight of four cops and had to commend his spirit into the hands of God. It made woke people mad and they went on the rampage.

@sree251 We agree, I am fortunate and that my family was intact, and we Claude ourselves up from the bottom. But not every man has that chance. I really appreciate your perspective

@Dshhh Thank you, my friend. Even though I am also fortunate, it doesn't make me feel content when guys like George Floyd end up badly. Taking it out on white cops who were also set up by the system to deal with 911 calls is plain unfair.

Imagine being a cop and getting called as back up because an arrest is being resisted. You arrive on the scene and the guy giving trouble looks like a heavy weight boxer standing at 6' 4" and weighing 223 pounds. Did Chauvin and the other three officers pull out their nightstcks and beat Floyd into submission the way those 5 black officers in Memphis dealt with Nichols? Chauvin conducted his arrest by the book according to standing procedures.

Painting this incident with racist overtones and condemning it as police brutality is unconscionable. A forcible arrest by any definition is physically brutal. I don't condemn Chauvin and want him exonerated by the Supreme Court. And I want that $27 million returned to the City Council of Minneapolis.

@sree251 I appreciate your words. My only difference is that it is not procedure to kneel on a man’s neck So he can’t breathe. That is not policy. It is more cruelty. But we live in a complex world and I appreciate the conversation

@Dshhh I don't want to argue this point about the knee method to hold someone down. I have watched several videos by law enforcement throughout the world when this case was being tried. All of them showed that the person being restrained the same way could breathe but they were demos with fit and healthy people. Floyd could have had difficulty breathing in that position at the time.

Choking someone to death is cruel and has got to be deliberate and with knowledge of the killer. Watching the video of Chauvin and the officers restraining Floyd, I didn't detect any of the officers being aware that they were choking a man to death. Floyd was claiming all along that he couldn't breathe while standing on the sidewalk, while struggling in the cop car, and all the way till he had his neck pinned to the ground. If I were a bystander, would I also be concerned and disturbed by Floyd's cries that he couldn't breathe? Sure. The cops were in control of the situation. It would not have been my place to interfere. Like I said, it was a sad situation. At any rate, the police department must take full responsibility for Floyd's death; and by extension, we as the public must bear responsibility also. Pinning it on the cops and throwing them to the wolves is not right even if the woke say I am dumb.

@sree251 It may be important to remember, how many people that look like Mr. Floyd. Have folks in their lives that have been abused by police. The statistics are available, and anyone who has had that in their family, will have an anti-police bias

@Dshhh Of course, you are right. Black people are a demographic in American cities. Every Monday morning, I would turn on the TV news channels to see how many people got hurt. Invariably, it would be 4 or 5 killed and 30 to 50 wounded by gunfire. And that's just in my city. It is the same deal in every other big city across the US where there are blacks in the inner cities. This is a feature in American society. I live in Asia 6 months a year and can see the stark difference. It doesn't happen in Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai, or Beijing. It's like entering a war zone every time I return to the US, walk into an American airport and see American police in their flak jackets and guns strapped to their hips.

Mr Floyd and his folks are not in a good place in America. To pin their misery on white people is nuts. Should we have segregation and give black people their own territories like the whole state of Mississippi, New York, and Illinois? They can govern themselves and have their own police force. I would vote for that in a referendum if that would prevent their abuse by white folks. We know that such a solution would be more cruel. Black people belong in American society. They are an integral part of our cultural fabric. What don't belong are woke people because they make matters worse.