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Is the western world moving in a far-right direction?

I think that it is, slowly away. In my time, I've seen radical parties and radical ideas normalised along with conspiracy theories. Large minorities of people support these ideas and it's become normalised for people (and politicians) in the middle. The Overton window always changes and it's clear which way it is going.

This is about Trump, but it's not just about him because Europe has had a resurgence of 'nationalist' parties who are losing their taboo and becoming slowly more influential. The British Conservative Party is not far-right and is not as radical as - say - the US Republicans or the German AFD. However, they've recently instituted measures that effectively criminalise asylum seekers. The Tories want to send them to Rwanda to be processed. They also passed a public order bill which means you can get locked up for 'disruption.' Most protest causes some kind of disruption and that is half of the point. Here, UKIP and the Brexit Party acted as outliers to push the Tories in a more nativist direction. Obviously, they still have the same neoliberal policies that benefit the rich. Blame someone else and people will vote for you nonetheless.

In continental Europe (where most countries have proportional representation voting) radical right parties have emerged and become more popular. In some cases, they have served in Government either on a local or regional level. In Italy, Hungary and Poland, they have led governments. Trump has taken over the US Republican Party to the point where other candidates are terrified to say they won't support him if he goes to jail for insighting an insurrection. Hungary is the place where the far right has had the most success. If you have time, this is an excellent article:

https://www.sciencespo.fr/ceri/en/content/politics-worst-practices-hungary-2010s

Why is this happening? My take on this is because Western economies are now in a period of long-term low (or zero) growth. The neoliberal era (from the 80s to the 00s) saw rapid growth over a long period of time. However, much of this was created debt accumulation and the financialization of our economies, which also entrenched greater instability. It also disproportionately effected some groups more than others. This came to a head with the 2007/08 financial crash. That incident really was a bookmark in modern political history and it didn't come about [i]just [/i]because of greedy bankers but because the growth models of our economies were unsustainable. After the recession, we had some periods of slow growth before Covid. Since the Covid crash, whatever growth we have had has been eaten by inflation. The days of long-term economic growth are probably gone for good in the west and people can feel it. A big part of this is indeed down to globalisation.

When the economics change, so does the politics, even if there is usually a lag. More people are open to question whether the conventional politics of the last fifty years represent them amd are more open to alternatives. The left has had its own alternative candidates and answers: Corbyn, Sanders, Syriza and others. Outside France (where Jean-Luc Melenchon is a major figure) this has mostly been defeated. So politics in most places has the liberal centre holding onto the status quo against an increasingly radicalised right wing. In many cases, these centrists have taken on more right-wing politics to try and get elected. I'm thinking of Macron and Keir Starmer in particular. Change can happen from within as well as without. The change that gets the most support (regardless of whether their solutions will improve people's lives) is coming from the right. I hope I am wrong but this process is set to continue.
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SW-User
What "ideas" do you identify as belonging to or being an integral part of the far-right?

For example, if someone says "I don't support illegal migration", that literally is all they are saying and I don't see how it can logically be categorized as far-right. You may question what their reasons are, but would you really say that every answer or the most prevailing answer is racism? Would you not recognize that there are other more acceptable reasons for not supporting it?

Also, the "right-wing" government in the UK are, most of the time, barely right-wing. As opposed to being interested in limiting state power, they have sought to expand it in some areas. They don't promote or encourage individual liberty, and don't change any laws that would be to the benefit of people (not the state). Fiscal policies and possibly immigration aside, what do they actually do that is conservative?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User[quote]What "ideas" do you identify as belonging to or being an integral part of the far-right?[/quote]

I did give examples in the second and third paragraphs for definitions of far right. I had a link to a long-read argument about a far-right government. Did you read past the headline?

[quote]Fiscal policies and possibly immigration aside, what do they actually do that is conservative?[/quote]

Though are less radical than the US Republicans (as I said in the OP) the Tories are definitely a Conservative Party. Since Thatcher, they have championed deregulation, privatisation of UK industries, Union busting, and having low income and corporate tax. I could go on. This is not controversial.

[quote]As opposed to being interested in limiting state power, they have sought to expand it in some areas. [/quote]

I don't agree with this framing. The far-right is very much invested in increasing state power. Conservatives in practice are quite happy to use state power on things that they like: especially with the police and the military.
SW-User
@Burnley123 [quote]I did give examples in the second and third paragraphs for definitions of far right. I had a link to a long-read argument about a far-right government. Did you read past the headline?[/quote]

I asked for what ideas you think are far-right, not for a list of countries you think may or may not be far-right. You are contending that the West (which, btw, encompasses more than Europe and U.S) is becoming increasingly far-right, but you haven't really told us what far-right [i]is[/i]. Moreover, the article only concerns Hungary, which is just one country in Europe and a place that is very different to other western countries.

[quote]Though are less radical than the US Republicans (as I said in the OP) the Tories are definitely a Conservative Party. Since Thatcher, they have championed deregulation, privatisation of UK industries, Union busting, and having low income and corporate tax. I could go on. This is not controversial.[/quote]

Great. They also introduced laws and policies which are demonstrably not right-wing.

[quote]I don't agree with this framing.[/quote]

That's concerning, given that limiting state powers and advocating individual liberty is one of the most fundamental aspects to right-wing politics.

[quote]The far-right is very much invested in increasing state power. Conservatives in practice are quite happy to use state power on things that they like: especially with the police and the military.[/quote]

*sigh*

You really need to pay attention to words and how they are defined, instead of casually using them to benefit whatever point you're attempting to make. "Far-right" and "conservatives" are not the same, yet in the paragraph above you appear to be suggesting they are, or you are at least identifying them as extremely similar.

In your own post, you said that you don't identify the Conservative Party in the U.K as "far-right", and that is the party I was addressing in my point on state powers and how right-wing politics advocates limiting them.

I would say this is a very good example of how the left, often intentionally, confuse right-wing with far-right.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User This is quite 'abrupt' in tone whilst also missing the point. I'm out but I'll deal with this later.