SCOTUS strikes down the Biden student loan handout.

@MethDozer Funny how the party of family values, the party that wants to save the children, doesn't seem to care that children are starving due to no fault of their own. And yes, we could feed them, but that would mean the rich don't get another tax cut.

@MethDozer ok comrade.

@irishmolly72 If you think publicly funding basic things like healthcare,school lunches, and education is communism you're education has severly failed you.

@irishmolly72 Your argument for letting kids starve is that not doing so would be Socialism?

@MethDozer [quote]School lunches should be free.[/quote]

The problem is there's no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody [u]always[/u] pays. Econ 101.

@irishmolly72 Duh. When people say a service should be free, they mean free at the point of service.
Firefighters will put out fires for you for free, but obviously we pay them with taxes.

@BohemianBoo We as a nation generally don't pay for it with taxes. The preponderance is done by government borrowing. That's because the politicans know they would get crushed if they actually raised taxes to pay for it.

This ponzi scheme is a ticking time bomb. It's the fault of both parties.

@irishmolly72 No, we do pay for it with taxes.
We don't need to raise taxes on the working-class, the rich have more than enough to tax.

@BohemianBoo So explain this:


You're suggesting we raise taxes by $32 Trillion. 😂

@irishmolly72 Did I say we should raise taxes to pay off the debt?
I swear, the Right isn't even trying anymore. At least before Trump, y'all tried to make rational arguments.

@irishmolly72 Again, you see an expense, the better of us see a hungery child who needs a god damn sandwich... the values you people hold is disgusting.

@irishmolly72 Yeah, lets look at how much that debt us from war, excessive spending on military, inteventionism, and corporate welfare.

@MethDozer By far the greatest problem in America is obesity, not hunger.

We need to foster a culture of parents and communities who care properly for their kids, not big brother domination.

@MethDozer I'm with you. Let's look at all stupid and irresponsible spending so that we can make the government smaller. Ready. Set. Go!!!!! ☺️

@irishmolly72 who was responsible for the largest tax break to the rich, which caused the greatest ballooning in deficit in history?

Yes, there is a terrific problem with adult obesity. But, children not eating properly leads to poor school performance, failure to achieve potential, lower earning possibility, and lower taxes paid. You don't solve obesity by starving kids.

It has been shown that as large portion of the obesity problem is overeating poor quality, sweetened food. Guess what the major sweetener is, at least in the US? It is corn syrup. Why is that you ask, because we provide support to the corn farmers, we keep the prices at a certain level, even sometimes provide funds to not plant, to force corn prices to rise. Each year the federal government gives billions of dollars to support the farmers. Many of them are able to live much better because of federal funds. I don't begrudge them that, but what is that actually called? Federal subsidies, aka socialism,?

@samueltyler2 [quote]Each year the federal government gives billions of dollars to support the farmers. Many of them are able to live much better because of federal funds.[/quote]

... and this is exactly the problem I'm talking about. Big government. The swamp hands out goodies to everybody. So we can agree on that? By the way, IMO Trump himself was part of the swamp.

The largest nutritional health problem in America [b]by far [/b]is obesity, regardless of the cause. We all need to work in the private sector to foster a CULTURE of absinence from unhealthy foods and a strong demand for nutritious foods. It isn't easy, but it's what free people are empowered to do.

@irishmolly72 this isn't what most people call big government, but if we do agree that the farm subsidies are bad, what is your plan, how would you turn it around? You have a choice then, cut the subsidies, put the little farms out of business so they don't produce so much corn, or cut the food to the children and have them fail at school because they aren't getting proper nutrition?

@samueltyler2 Nobody ever said it would be easy or trivial to solve the tangled mess our gigantic government has created. I don't have the time or inclination to produce a 100,000 page document to address all these issues, especially not on this site. But I know for certain that Biden is taking us in the wrong direction.

Furthermore, why does your question ask for a policy response? The real answer is for free people to embrace a culture that flourishes. If the people don't make that choice then it will not happen. That's not my problem. But the government needs to get out of the way of it all. Patrick Moynihan predicted much of this ~50 years ago. (I miss the days when politicians could reach across the isle.)

There is a Statue of Liberty on the east coast, but no Statue of Responsibility on the west coast. Socialism has allowed people to act in all kinds of irresponsible ways, yet still fall comfortably into the safety net. This process is self amplifying. What it yields is ever more irresponsible behavior, which then "needs" an even bigger government to fix. See how it works?

Government policies usually throw markets out of equilibrium in some way. That is a painful situation. The liberal solution is always .... you guessed it.... even more government. Even more disequilibrium. I have been called a Nazi on this site. Do you think Hitler and his party were for small government as I am?? Do you think they were in favor of free individuals making their own decisions and being ressponsible for the outcomes? Really??

@irishmolly72 I guess you hate him that much. Sorry for that, he has more for this country in his 2 years in office than most other presidents in 4 or more.

@samueltyler2 You mean like shrinking savings and paychecks of low income workers by creating substantial inflation? That's not really my definition of "doing" things.

@irishmolly72 stop with the inflation stuff, would you rather have the US in a recession? The US economy is on a far better position than any of the country. Coming out of COVID, it has had a robust recovery, unlike any other county. It the low income class is hurting, also look at the higher income folks who were handed a huge tax reduction during the previous administration, adding trillions of dollars to the deficit, more than any other non-wartime time administration in history.

@samueltyler2 [quote]stop with the inflation stuff,[/quote]

A mysterious voice says: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. "

@irishmolly72 The inflation lie has already been debunked. Talking about it now is boring.

@BohemianBoo Then simply move along.