SCOTUS strikes down the Biden student loan handout.

@LordShadowfire

@BizSuitStacy would argue predatory lending is a leftist conspiracy

@LordShadowfire You mean they will struggle to pay off debts they never should have incurred? Sounds like responsibility to me. What a scary thought! 😱

@irishmolly72 I'm glad you agree the debts should never have been incurred, but what are we going to do? College tuition is so prohibitively expensive, it's either incur debts or not get educated and starve to death.

@irishmolly72 You should consider yourself a true patriot for wanting tour country to be bottom barrel in terms of education and uplifting citizens to be productive for the whole cause.👏👏👏👏

@MethDozer My country was one of the best until the Department of Education was established during the Carter administration. Imagine that! Let it sink in for a bit.

@irishmolly72 We're talking about college education tuition here Molly. Nice little defelction.


And no, Carter and the Department of Education didn't ruin grammar and HS education in the US. Dipshits pushing for Charter schools and school tax vouchers for private schools did by sucking all the money out of school districts.



You GOPs are fucking evil. It's thw only word for y'all anymore.

@MethDozer Life gets tough when the Meth wears off, huh?

@irishmolly72

@MethDozer [quote] Dipshits pushing for Charter schools [/quote]

Thanks for making my point. Charter schools are the best things that ever happened to poor inner city kids. They provide an education with integrity, which is something that can't be said for woke public schools.

@irishmolly72 There you go again, proving your racism.

@LordShadowfire That's funny because you mentioned race and I didn't. Paranoid much?

@irishmolly72 Charter schhols have been the worst thing to happen to poor city children. The impact of charter schools has been notjing but destruction for the vast majority of students and schools in inner cities.


All a charter school is is a private school that gets to siphon public funds away from the public school system and gets to cherry pick it's students while opperating on a profit motive.

It's absolutely disgusting and you pigs love it because it encourges your favorite pasttimes of enlitism, entitlment&priviledge, and screwing the poor in the name of the dollar.

@MethDozer [quote]a private school that gets to siphon public funds away from the public school system [/quote]

Thank God that at least some of the money gets to be spent intelligently. At least some of our poor children can be educated, as opposed to your model of a babysitter rather than a school.

@irishmolly72 It isn't being spent intelligently on charter schools. Charter schools are an abomination. Same with private school vouchers.

@MethDozer That's why the children in charter schools are doing so badly, right?

Per the recent Stanford University study:
[quote]
When we look deeper into these results to determine if all students benefit, we find positive results are not only present in the aggregate, but also across student race/ethnicity groups:

[b]Black and Hispanic students[/b] in charter schools advance more than their TPS peers by large margins in math and reading.

[b]Multiracial, Native American and White[/b] students in charter schools show equivalent progress to their TPS peers in reading but have weaker growth than their TPS peers in math.
Asian students in charter schools showed similar growth to their TPS peers.

When we examine academic growth for special populations of students, we found that, compared with their TPS peers:

Charter school [b]students in poverty [/b]had stronger growth.
[b]English-language learner students[/b] attending charter schools had stronger growth.
Students receiving special education services had significantly weaker growth in both math and reading.
[/quote]

I guess you feel that it really sucks that charter schools are helping minorities, students in poverty and English-language-learning students. But those seem to be the facts.

The full report can be found here:
https://ncss3.stanford.edu/reports/background/

@irishmolly72 Yeah, when reserve the ability to cherry pick the very best students and weed out the struggling ones that tends to happen.


The impact on the entire communities and school districts they opperate in is pretty fucking terrible though.



Charter schools also are essenially welfare for private buisiness.

@MethDozer Except that they help black and hispanic students and students in poverty according to the Stanford study I just cited, which means that the Stanford study completely contradicts what you said.

@irishmolly72 No. The study merely says the students in said schools perfomr better. What isn't adressed is the impact these for profit schools proffiting off of tax dollars do the community and population as a whole by siphoning needed funds to public schools in the same district. Nor does it address the fact that these for profit private schools funded off of public dollars cherry pick the best students and remove the poorest performing students to bolster their statistics since they aren't held to the same standards and requirments of actual public schools. They are granted great leanancy in their ability to pick which students they teach that regular public school aren't allowed. Nor should be allowed.


It's easy to get "great results" when you have the ability to weed out the most challenged students and pad your classes with the hughest achieveing students. Which is exactly what the vast majority of charter schools do in practice.

@MethDozer You are confusing cause and effect. The schools are taking children who are poor, hispanic, black or whatever, and educating them to become high achievers. I know you are in denial about this, but it's happening and it's proof positive about the concept of charter schools and other school choice initiatives. The research I provided proves this.

At least be honest.

@irishmolly72 You are flat out saying that you are in favor of unequal education based on income.

@LordShadowfire I do think that poor, hispanic and black students need help. Yes. If that's wrong then so be it.