@LordShadowfire pisses me off that if that was really the objective we would have given them air power (jets) and armor and anti air defense system in first month and war would have been over in 4. So funny that when you think republicans are waging war you call it the military industrial machine and capitalists are profiting. When your old man is dragging it out to shift attention from corruption, it’s suddenly about Ukraine’s freedom
@Rickinnc yeah we should be sending 5 times that amount, then hire Zelensky as a consultant on attacking our own domestic terrorists the GOP MAGAs. They are very similar to Russia so Zelensky would be a great source of information.
@BackyardShaman ain’t enough space on the internet…let’s just leave it at the Russian collusion story, created by a the made up Steele dossier, proven in last to years to have been paid for by Hillary and DNC, and allowed the govt to illegally spur on the president at the time and other private US citizens
@Rickinnc not enough space on the internet 😂😂 honestly you said something about me being anti Trump, you are right I hate him and want to see him convicted for his obvious crimes, but I’ve got to be fair I hate all of the GOP MAGA Right wingers. Trump is not solely responsible he had and still has plenty of accomplices.
@SomeMichGuy I just noticed the profile has almost the initials RNC😂 just like the Republican National Committee which is a huge propaganda spreading organization. After looking at the profile and the way it responds to posts it could easily be manufactured. So it might be a person or it might be a BOT.
@SomeMichGuy yep!! A true typical NC MAGA would actually have more short phrases and partial sentences than this likely BOT is using, and it’s talking points are for the most part directly copied from the GOP sources.
@SomeMichGuy Eisenhower did warn us because he witnessed it first hand. Now every time we have gone to war since democrats try to say republicans are just trying to feed the military industrial machine. He saw the dangers of us having any involvement in any war that we did not decide to be militarily committed to win, not just on the right side politically. He was correct. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan we’re all Political wars with no strong military plan to win and bring to conclusion. Only war wine since ww2 was dessert storm because that President bush listened to his military leader and not sec of state or sec of defense
@Rickinnc Rumsfeld (formerly the youngest Sec'y of Defense), under Bush (when he was the *oldest*) Sec'y of Defense, got rid of the doctrine named in part for Colin Powell, that you go in with an exit plan (a doctrine which had incorporated a lesson from Vietnam into strategic military planning).
That was a serious mistake, but what do you expect from those who are so full of themselves...?
I think our real problem is that elements in the military, and weapons manufacturers/military suppliers WANT continual war in order to
a) always be testing equipment, strategies, and tactics in order to improve readiness;
b) keep military spending at levels well over that needed in peacetime;
c) keep civilians afraid of war, which will support the required high levels of spending;
d) have people think that huge amounts of defense spending are both "natural" and "necessary" by essentially conditioning us to wartime spending forever.
The biggest scare for these über-hawks? Pres. Clinton talking about the "peace dividend", and esp. that lots of military spending has been for weapons we hope to never use (dead-end spending), rather than for, e.g., things we desperately needed, like infrastructure, education, etc., spending.
pisses me off that if that was really the objective we would have given them air power (jets) and armor and anti air defense system in first month and war would have been over in 4.
Oh, sure. And then Putin busts out the nuclear weapons, and then it's all over for the entire world.
@LordShadowfire free plane ride to Moscow for all MAGAs we will round them up State by state and lure them to the planes with promises of jobs and free housing. Drop them off in front of the Kremlin.
@SomeMichGuy same thing ! Kidnapping among other things illegal and immoral, however they are actually doing this while my scenario is theoretical. So if they are not held accountable for their actions, then as soon as we locate the funding we can do what I’m proposing.
