Wouldent Robert F Kennedy jr

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I think you have let Dems dismiss Kennedy for you, with lies about his vaccine position. That vaccines are highly profitable and therefore we won't be containing any future pandemics - you think that's so crazy we better just vote fer Biden and take that NATO expansion as unstoppable?

@Roundandroundwego As usual your response makes no sense.

I haven't even heard him talk about vaccines at all since the early 2000s.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow there are interviews with RFK online about his evolving view of vaccines from this month. I've listened to several. I definitely make sense. But that doesn't mean Dems and mainstream Americans will want to admit it. You stay strong and keep the reds and Greens from having a voice in US politics only by shunning us! You don't need to listen to any opposition in the US system. It's bad for you.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Guess what he did during Covid.

@Spotpot The fact people have to go digging for his opinion on anything just further proves his views are largely irrelevant. He also is not a serious contender.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Dude's literally backed by Bannon and endorses literally every conspiracy theory you can think of - from antivaxx nonsense, to HIV/AIDS cr#p. His talking points if put into a Venn diagram with that of the wildest hardcore maga lunatics almost form a perfect circle.

He's running to give Trump a chance by splitting the blue electorate.

@Elessar Biden does nothing Trump wouldn't do. That's perfect for the Dems.

@Elessar And Democrats have backed the far right nutjobs in the GOP. So what? That is just smart politics.

And like anything else citation needed. Heck I haven't seen the guy on any network in probably 15 years and he has never been a serious contender politically so claiming he is some Trump plant sounds more like you are buying into conspiracies.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow [quote]And Democrats have backed the far right nutjobs in the GOP.[/quote]
Citation needed here, lmao

Dude, the guy has an extensive publication machine set up to push the usual well-known far-right conspiracies, is endorsed by literally every republican you can come across (both influential key people and even any and every random idiots on here, just look at the comments from notorious ones here), and is well known in certain environments.

- [u]https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/11/15/majority-anti-vaccine-ads-facebook-were-funded-by-two-groups/[/u]

- [u]https://www.thedailybeast.com/rfk-jrs-latest-anti-vaxx-stunt-backed-by-weird-pro-qanon-german-group-querdenken-711[/u]

- [u]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-meet-with-proponent-of-debunked-tie-between-vaccines-and-autism/2017/01/10/4a5d03c0-d752-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html[/u]

- [u]https://web.archive.org/web/20211124070005/https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Real_Anthony_Fauci.html?id=ApUfEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description[/u]

- [u]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/us/politics/robert-f-kennedy-jr-twitter-2024.html[/u]

- [u]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/rfk-jr-backed-group-connected-top-maga-republicans-1808780%3famp=1[/u]

Dude's a Republican asset and his only purpose is fracturing the democrat voter base so that Republicans may have a chance after the midterm fiasco, change my mind. Believing otherwise is akin to believing that Trump stole that heap of documents for his own consumption, I mean you're entitled to believe it if you want but you won't convince anyone.

@Elessar Lol no. Not the same thing. Him being an asset is an assumption you made based on other people latching on to things he has said in the past.

And it is fear mongering. Because lets be real. The Communist Party of the USA has about as much pull as he does in this day and age.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Funded by far righters, echoing far-right talking points, and I'm going too far if I assume he's an asset? lol

So they said about trump in 2016, and here we are.

@Elessar You are clearly determined to believe your conspiracy.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow If someone's identity consists in pushing far-rightwing narratives they're far-rightwing in my book.

@Elessar Except he doesn't push far right narratives. Just some medical quackery. And even then he hasn't gotten any traction in decades at this point.

The last news network I saw give him a platform was RT America in like 2009.

The man also has zero clout in American politics and your Trump whataboutism doesn't change that.

It is funny how a legit candidate like Marrianne Williamson gets shit on and called a non entity by the same group claiming RFK, the Kennedy most people have never even heard of is a serious threat.

And there is no way in hell he would get through the primary system.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow His "some medical quackery" was Republican's main platform until before transphobia replaced it. Same identical narratives, same identical targets (Fauci, Gates et al). it's not really a "conspiracy" when you can see his a$s at QAnon rallies lol

He's not meant to win the primary, just to create a group of Dems that will refuse to vote for Biden in the final rundown so that MAGA has the opportunity to secure enough seats. He's the wannabe Jill Stein of this election cycle.

@Elessar Sure. But that doesn't magically make it right wing. And right wing ideology didn't spring into being during the pandemic. You are trying to fit facts to a narrative.


And again, that is a conspiracy theory that doesn't hold water. He is a nobody with a famous last name.

And I see we are back to the bullshit of blaming Jill Stein by people who don't understand how American elections work, and before that it was Ross Perrot. Decades of Democrats inventing narratives of why someone else is to blame for them losing elections. Unfortunately none of these narratives hold up if you do the math.

I will give the GOP one thing. They at least don't blame the Libertarian Party when they lose.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow If you're endorsed by, funded by, and share the very same talking point of the far right, as I said, you're far right in my book. Simple as that.

Uh no, those who haven't figured out how the American system works are those who continue to push there quacks and then complain because the GOP keeps winning. The GOP doesn't complain about Libertarians because its electorate will vote compact for it, even if and I quote "their leader would shoot someone on 5th Ave."

Jill and RFK purpose is the same.

@Elessar Again, medical quackery is not right wing and definitely not far right. Claiming everything you don't approve of as far right renders the distinction meaningless and feeds into the actual far right talking point that the left calls everyone nazis if they disagree with them.



Whatever. You are determined to believe your narrative regardless of the facts. I am done.

And ironically it is because of people pushing this narrative that real leftists will never get anywhere keeping the US a right wing dystopia.