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Concerning social security and wealth.

https://www.cnbc.com/select/will-social-security-run-out-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

[quote][c=000000]Will Social Security run out of money? Here’s what could happen to your benefits if Congress doesn’t act
A recent report found that starting in 2034 retirees will only receive part of their benefits.

Will Social Security run out?

For millions of retirees, Social Security provides an essential source of income in retirement. In 2020, around 50 million retired workers collected Social Security benefits, according to the Social Security administration.

However, the recent[u][i] 2022 Social Security Trustees report finds that in 2034, retirees will start receiving a reduced benefit if Congress doesn’t fix funding issues for the social program[/i][/u].

In other words, Social Security will exist after 2034, but retirees will only receive 77% of their full benefit starting then.[/c][/quote]

Now we know the opposing positions of both sides. Yet neither side wants to address the obvious....

https://smartasset.com/retirement/social-security-tax-limit
[quote][c=000000[u][i]]The most you will have to pay in Social Security taxes for 2023 will be $9,932. That’s what you will pay if you earn $160,200 or more[/i][/u]. As its name suggests, the Social Security tax goes to the Social Security program. For 2023, it amounts to 6.2% for employees on all income up to $160,200. Employers deduct the tax from paychecks and match it, so that 12.4% goes to the program for each employee. If you’re self-employed, you’ll pay the total 12.4%, though you can deduct half on your tax return. The earnings limit is called the Social Security wage base limit, and it typically goes up every year. The annual rise began in 1972, when the wage base was $9,000.

Consider working with a financial advisor as you assess your taxes and how that will affect how much you receive from the federal government.

What Is the Social Security Tax Limit?

You aren’t required to pay the Social Security tax on any income beyond the Social Security wage base limit. In 2023, this limit is $160,200, up from the 2022 limit of $147,000. As a result, in 2023 you’ll pay no more than $9,932 ($160,200 x 6.2%) in Social Security taxes.[/c][/quote]

Why is such a low maximum in place.? Like it's totally on the middle class and lower...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/151427/Americans-Set-Rich-Threshold-150-000-Annual-Income.aspx

That's 47% of the population making more than $150,000 IN 2011! It's certainly more than that by now!

Why is there that cap of $160,000? When even the wealthiest billionaires can receive social security?

Could it be all political parties don't want to pay their fair share?

https://www.thoughtco.com/salaries-and-benefits-of-congress-members-3322282
[quote][c=000000]The current base salary for all rank-and-file members of the U.S. House and Senate is $[u][i]174,000[/i][/u] per year, plus benefits
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That's the very minimum base pay of a just elected house member for ALL PARTIES!

Notice the convenient cutoff? 😡

End of rant!
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irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
SS is child's play compared to Medicare. The US is simply broke and it's just a matter of time until this music stops.



Source:
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@irishmolly72 I made a replies on this a few months ago. As well as replies on who is causing the worse of it.

It's not exactly the democrats either. Though they do have their part in this mess.

I have replied with the following quite a few times.

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50 year U.S. Debt by President Short % table

Joe R. Biden..projected 46.36%
Donald J. Trump......40.43%
Barack Obama..........69.98%
George W. Bush... 105.08%
William J. Clinton.....31.64%
George H. W. Bush..54.39%
Ronald Reagan........186.36%
Jimmy Carter............ 42.79%
Gerald Ford...............47.11%

https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-by-president/

*projected figures from:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/262893/national-debt-in-the-united-states/

Party increases over the last 50 years!

Democratic increases: 47.69%
Republican increases: 86.67%

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There is no denying this! The facts speak for themselves!

Another interesting progression site compares us against the whole world. It shows pretty much the same thing because of the time frames...

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/GGXWDG_NGDP@WEO/RUS/USA/GBR/DEU/FRA/CHN/AUS/CAN

This is directly from the International Money Fund (IMF)! About as non political as you're going to get since they monitor the whole worlds debt!

George W Bush put us on that map! And not at the beginning either. At mid term!
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@DeWayfarer [quote]This is directly from the International Money Fund (IMF)! About as non political as you're going to get since they monitor the whole worlds debt![/quote]

Why does the fact that they monitor the whole world's debt make them "as non political as you're going to get"? 😂😂😂

Nice try.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@irishmolly72 look at who is on that list. Practically the whole world is on it. And not even Trump would be so foolish as to exit it like Russia did.

Once you're off you lose all your status and can never regain it.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@DeWayfarer Yeah. It's not like global hyperinflation could ever cause any problems.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@irishmolly72 before you criticize the global market, learn the real costs of production production, where we get either the products themselves, the elements to make those products as well as the labor to make those products and elements.

I'll admit there is a serious discrepancy in product costs, yet it's totally on our end.

Just to make anything we must import the basic elements of our own products, not to mention the products themselves, nor the cost to transport anything. End product or not.

Globally we are the end users! Not the other countries themselves!

That is the discrepancy. Why are we not producing the basics elements to make our own products?

The problem is on us. Not the other countries, nor on the global market.

Our own politics and selfishness is the major factor!

It's in everything. Heck we don't even use our own oil! We sell it to those that can't get it from the Arab countries. As well as import the oil from the Arab countries who sell it cheaper than we do to others.

That is our own problem of our own making! The US wealthy getting richer on our own products and elements to the average American consumer.

We should be using our own resources and making our own parts and end products. Not others for the profit of our own wealthy.

You can thank Ronald Reagan for this wealthy getting more wealthy on the global market! He is the one that started this whole imbalance with Reaganomics and being oh so friendly with China.

While the rest of the world suffers! Including the Chinese people themselves! Not the government of China!

Who just happens to be a founding partner of the IMF and who Trump himself is so friendly with!

We are causing our own problems!
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irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@DeWayfarer [quote]Our own politics and selfishness is the major factor![/quote]

It's interesting that we are experiencing selfishness and politics now. I guess that hasn't been ongoing throughout all human history.

Tell me a time when selfishness and politics wasn't a factor in human history please. Inquiring minds wanna know!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@irishmolly72 I never said there wasn't a time that we didn't. Just that it's not right.

To improve on the past is how we all should look at this. Not to go backwards into feudalism. Which is what seems to be happening under conservatives. States rights is going backwards towards feudalism.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@DeWayfarer [quote]States rights is going backwards towards feudalism.[/quote]

So feudalism is what our Founding Fathers envisioned? Wow, ya learn something new every day. 🤔
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@irishmolly72 No! Feudalism is what "REPUBLIC"ans want. Not a DEMOCRACY!

Feudalism IS separate state countries. Learn some history as well as the meaning of a Democratic - Republic!

Do you notice anything here at all concerning those last two words! Democratic - Republic!

It's Not a Republic! Democratic modifies Republic!

Do you happen to know why the constitution needed a Bill of rights?

Because of REPUBLICANS! Who want States rights, not individual rights!

That's is feudalistic! Feudalism encouraged small individual states as countries! Hence the word "fiefdom"!

Yet fiefdoms would never allow for individual rights! Only rights of the state like countries.

Now guess what the supreme court is doing?

Expanding states rights and taking away individual rights!

Making the whole country like individual fiefdoms!

Learn the history that your fellow republican teacher's would never want to teach you!

Or make certain those books are banned by the "state" like fiefdom from all individual rights freedom seekers.

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As a sided line....

I'm totally accurate when I say DeSantis wants control over more fiefdoms! Since he is running for president!

Feudalism is where there are minor kings and greater kings over those minor kings!

Trump on the other has no claim to the feudalistic republic. He didn't start out as a minor king.... (Governor)!

Now do you see why Trump is not a republican? And not only that, yet because Trump was once a Democrat himself!

He actually IS the ultimate RINO! Ironic that his followers started that word.

Because that's what they are as well!

RINOS!
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@DeWayfarer [quote] ... Trump is not a republican... [/quote]

Absurd.