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12 nillion say Violence is needed to put trump back in office. do any here agree?

Poll - Total Votes: 24
yes, we should take up arms and reinstate him
the elections was stolen regardless of what those investigations said
elections dont matter leadership is what I want
i dont like him but will vote for him anyway
no no no ,, no trump
I like how he talked.
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so many of my countrymen believe the election was stolen
Some wna to take up arms for their guy

[b][big]I WANT to here from those that supported him, Not just those detractors[/big][/b]


are any of you here? that into him?

lets NOT just call people names huh?
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
I am going to put myself in the shoes of the Trump supporters I know personally, because I doubt you will get an honest answer from anyone here.

To them, they not only believe, but "know" there is a conspiracy of powerful people pulling the strings behind the federal government, such as the "smoking man" on the show X files. With that in mind, they "know" those powers put Biden and most others in office, have rigged the election in such a way as to leave no hard evidence, and are actively working against Trump, who to them is somewhat of a "savior".

Their views are all rooted in their personal failures to get ahead or further ahead. They may have lost a family business because of competition from china. Lost their blue collar factory job to overseas manufacturing. Perhaps their "pride and joy" came home with another guy or wearing a dress. All this they pin on some kind of organized global agenda.

Because they "know" this is all true, they feel their vote and their voice has been silenced, and they may feel their only path to ensure future prosperity (or the return of things to the way they were) is though violence. This really is no different than other countries that have had violent overthrows (including nazi germany). Remember, to them it is the other side acting unlawfully, so such action is justified as a form of "Self defense".

I would be willing to bet that the majority of Trump's base feel that violence may be needed, or if it happens they would not be against it. I do doubt that there is enough organization or wherewithal from these folks to actually see much happen, but should something happen I think there are plenty that would try to join in.

When this happens in other countries, there usually is some kind of charismatic and intelligent opposition leader. Trump is a dumbass who basically keeps a loaded gun pointed at his feet.
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
@trollslayer That is an astute analysis. I would add the Trump-MAGA types never feel they have to produce any verifiable documented evidence for their claims. And they immediately reject any contradicting evidence of their claims. To them all media are involved in an anti-Trump conspiracy.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@badminton basically the definition of a conspiracy. You cannot prove them wrong because any evidence or logic to the contrary is evidence of the conspiracy. Example: balloon that is part of top secret espionage program crashes in Roswell NM. Originally reported a "flying saucer" in order to distract public away from espionage program. Decades pass, conspiracy grows regarding lying government and coverup. Info is finally released, and the mere fact it took decades to release info is proof itself that government is lying and must still be lying.
@trollslayer i am glad you o9ssted as you did,
thanks for real conversation,
@trollslayer That is called a "circular argument". When one knows the exact conclusion the WANT to reach.........it's easy to cherry pick events, twist them.....draw a line of supposed logic in whatever way they have to.....to come right back to the end point they knew there were headed for in the beginning.

Example.....The election was cheated. It had to be because trump had rallies and Biden didn't and billions and billions and trillions of people showed up at trump rallies. So if billions and billions and trillions of people showed up at trump rallies......and Biden never had any rallies......which means NO ONE showed up to support him.........then it is logical that the billions and billions and trillions of voters for trump was somehow disenfranchised by digital voting machines that was built by people we don't know............who logically must have been Biden supporters. So there you go.........proof that Biden cheated the election.