Abortion is right or wrong

Abortion: Is either right or it's wrong. It is either.life.or.it's death. If you say that.you are " pro choice " and one of the choices is abortion then you are pro abortion.

I have no rules to.respond. If I only.wanted those who agree with my stance to respond, I would talk to my.pro life friends and I would never learn anything.new. think it is important to understand why people believe what they do. Life experiences that helped shape their beliefs. I personally think it's petty playground bullying to use " religious zealot " or " indoctrination " terms as an attack but if thats your flag, then fly it.

I.believe in God, heaven and hell, good and evil but I don't consider myself religious. I haven't been to church in 7 yrs. I went to a catholic grade and high school. I was NEVER taught who was or wasn't going to hell. I was actually taught the opposite. It is okay to say that someone might be or is in heaven, but NEVER say that someone might be or is in hell. Unless you.are with them when they draw their last breath and know their heart and soul you have no right to pass judgement. If you do then you have just made your reservation. This being said, I am NOT judging the one who has had or believes in abortion. I AM judging the violent act of deliberately and intentionally stopping a human life in any stage of development. Everyone has a RIGHT and a RESPONSIBILITY to support policies that support their moral and ethical beliefs.

I do wish that pro abortion would just say that they believe that a woman has a right to abortion for any reason at any stage instead of " it's not a human being " or " it's not a person " or any other excuse

I have three beautiful good friends who have had abortions. All before I met them. Before this I never knew anyone or their stories. I DO have compassion for the reasons they chose abortion. Two regret their decisions and theirs.seemed more tragic than the one who has no regret. I will ALWAYS love these women.

As long as there is help for EVERY unwanted and unplanned pregnancy and there is, t I will ALWAYS support making and keeping abortions illegal.

I have some questions. #1 Are only those who believe in God and are pro life " religious zealots " and" indoctrinated " ? What about those who are pro abortion and believe i God ? What about pro life Atheist ? They aren't " religious zealots ", are they indoctrinated ? What about those who believe in God and heaven and hell but don't believe in organized religions ? It seems to me that " religious zealot " and " indoctrination " are being used to fit ones narrative. Believing that one day that we will all answer for what we have done or didn't do is NOT preaching fire and brimstone.. Most pro abortion who believe in God believe this. They believe the answers will be seen differently

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Arorin · M

Everyone fighting over this issue has already been born.

SW-User

@Arorin yes but apparently babies they make on their own volition aren't allowed to be born, grow up and have their own say on the topic because inconvenience

Arorin · M

@SW-User im not going to tell anyone how to live their life or to believe whatever i just pointing out we all have been allowed to be born that is the only reason we have this opportunity to argue.

SW-User

@Arorin it's a fair point that I gravitated to because I used to make the same point

Arorin · M

@SW-User what argument do you make now?

SW-User

@Arorin That if a woman has the right to physically abort a child that is 50% my responsibility and yet i have no say in the matter, then I have the right (or should) to financially abort any child I do not wish to claim and no woman should have a say in that.

It's not good, but I think it's a fair pushback.

CrystalSkull · F

@SW-User wow.

SW-User

@CrystalSkull I wonder if you are similarly as shocked at the notion of taking a child's life. Somehow I doubt it. Can you at least explain the difference between you disrupting the process of life because "inconvenience" and me opting out of taking care of a child for the same reason? Why should you have a say in how I spend my money?

CrystalSkull · F

@SW-User no I’m not shocked because in my country it’s legal within a certain trimester. I live in one of the rape capitals of the world by the way. I also know how many children are neglected, given away, abused. I know how many women are traumatised by backstreet abortions and die. So you keep your money, I have my own, and your self righteousness is not surprising, you don’t have to carry the bullet for nine months. Sit on your throne in your comfy first world country, judge away. Or even better adopt a whole 10 kids…if you care so much.

SW-User

@CrystalSkull Show me a statistic that actually shows that abortions happen in large part due to rape? What rapist do you know that you could negotiate with to take care of a child he brought into this world by force? Rape has nothing to do with my position. Try again.

CrystalSkull · F

@SW-User Aren’t you the man? Big guy? Google is your friend, look it up yourself, if you have nothing but empty pseudo intellectual ethics to offer, go try somewhere else. I don’t have to try anything, just get a vasectomy bro…then you don’t have to worry about your precious capital.

SW-User

@CrystalSkull I have looked it up that's what I'm basing my argument on. Look. It's an emotional topic. I'm not here to fight you but I do expect you to point out where my logic fails if you are going to attack it. Rape stats I know say that abortions that take place due to rape account for around or less than 1 percent. So clearly that's not the primary reason for abortions

CrystalSkull · F

@SW-User thank you for the gift, I am fine thank you.