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Abortion is right or wrong

Abortion: Is either right or it's wrong. It is either.life.or.it's death. If you say that.you are " pro choice " and one of the choices is abortion then you are pro abortion.

I have no rules to.respond. If I only.wanted those who agree with my stance to respond, I would talk to my.pro life friends and I would never learn anything.new. think it is important to understand why people believe what they do. Life experiences that helped shape their beliefs. I personally think it's petty playground bullying to use " religious zealot " or " indoctrination " terms as an attack but if thats your flag, then fly it.

I.believe in God, heaven and hell, good and evil but I don't consider myself religious. I haven't been to church in 7 yrs. I went to a catholic grade and high school. I was NEVER taught who was or wasn't going to hell. I was actually taught the opposite. It is okay to say that someone might be or is in heaven, but NEVER say that someone might be or is in hell. Unless you.are with them when they draw their last breath and know their heart and soul you have no right to pass judgement. If you do then you have just made your reservation. This being said, I am NOT judging the one who has had or believes in abortion. I AM judging the violent act of deliberately and intentionally stopping a human life in any stage of development. Everyone has a RIGHT and a RESPONSIBILITY to support policies that support their moral and ethical beliefs.

I do wish that pro abortion would just say that they believe that a woman has a right to abortion for any reason at any stage instead of " it's not a human being " or " it's not a person " or any other excuse

I have three beautiful good friends who have had abortions. All before I met them. Before this I never knew anyone or their stories. I DO have compassion for the reasons they chose abortion. Two regret their decisions and theirs.seemed more tragic than the one who has no regret. I will ALWAYS love these women.

As long as there is help for EVERY unwanted and unplanned pregnancy and there is, t I will ALWAYS support making and keeping abortions illegal.

I have some questions. #1 Are only those who believe in God and are pro life " religious zealots " and" indoctrinated " ? What about those who are pro abortion and believe i God ? What about pro life Atheist ? They aren't " religious zealots ", are they indoctrinated ? What about those who believe in God and heaven and hell but don't believe in organized religions ? It seems to me that " religious zealot " and " indoctrination " are being used to fit ones narrative. Believing that one day that we will all answer for what we have done or didn't do is NOT preaching fire and brimstone.. Most pro abortion who believe in God believe this. They believe the answers will be seen differently
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Really · 80-89, M
How do you feel about soldiers killing 'foreign' people to maintain control over a part of the earth's surface, or murdering internationally because one govt disapproves of another's politics? In today's world this sick, focused obsession with other peoples' abortions is lunatic.
missyann · 56-60
@Really American soldiers fights oppression and for freedom. Yes, sometimes innocent.people die but this. Isn't their mission. Every abortion, the mission IS to kill innocent human beings
Really · 80-89, M
@missyann I'm not talking about only American soldiers or their allegedly high-minded motives and I'm not talking about only "collateral damage" to civilians. I'm talking about making war by killing people - any people - who may or may not be 'innocent'. You think the fact that you don't know who they are makes the 'killing mission' acceptable?

I see decision-making over both war and abortion as having to weigh & balance many factors including assumptions, hypotheses, opinions & outright propaganda..
missyann · 56-60
@Really. I don't like to see any innocent human being murdered No matter who does it or for what reason.

I am saying Soldiers mission is not to deliberately MURDER innocent human beings. The mission of every abortion IS to MURDER innocent human beings
Really · 80-89, M
@missyann I don't like to see human beings killed, whether we call them innocent or not and whether we choose to call the killing murder. And you don't have to shout every time you use the word. That does not make you sound thoughtful.
missyann · 56-60
@Really We are going to have to agree to disagree . I see deliberately and intentionally stopping a human life's development murder. I don't know what else to call it
Really · 80-89, M
@missyann It's killing. 'Murder' is a legal term defined and applied by lawmakers & courts to certain types of killing. Killing is a physical act. Whether it's murder is a legal question, not one decided by personal opinion or prejudice. These are facts.
missyann · 56-60
@Really. Call it chasing a ball If you want The results are still exact same A human being ceases to live
Really · 80-89, M
@missyann
Call it chasing a ball If you want
Does this have some meaning in your mind? If so, what? (Just for the rest of us)
missyann · 56-60
@Really The term you use doesn't matter. Because of an evil intentional act an innocent human being is no longer alive. I call that murder. If anyone other than an innocent baby in the womb is stabbed in the head and dismembered, our country calls it murder. Just because something is labeled legal doesn't make it right. This is why I'm fighting to change the law. Unborn human beings deserve the same basic human rights that any other human being has
Really · 80-89, M
@missyann You have the right to try to have your country's laws clanged. You don't have the right to pretend that every abortion is (or even most are) equivalent to head-stabbing and dismembering someone - not if you believe in speaking truth, that is. But perhaps you don't.
missyann · 56-60
@Really Every surgical abortion is done this way. Third trimester the baby is given a shot in the head or heart to cause cardiac arrest and then skull is crushed and are dismembered. If this.method isn't used, why are their body parts put together like a puzzle to ensure that there is no part left inside the mother to cause an infection ? Saline abortions where a babies burned inside because they swallow salt water and their skin is burned.

You can pretend all you want that abortions are humane. A criminal put to death is treated more humane even though they have committed heinous crimes. An unborn human being has done nothing other than being conceived. An act that they are in no was responsible for.

Can you give me one reason why babies born alive must be killed
Really · 80-89, M
@missyann I haven't researched the statistics but I have no reason to think that most abortions are performed in the third trimester. You seem willing to resort to any sort of exaggeration in seeking to ban all abortions.
missyann · 56-60
@Really I never said that most abortions occur in the third trimester. I know that most don’t occur in the third trimester but those that do like her or not medically necessary, so there’s no reason for them.. nothing I said is an exaggeration. Abortions are done the way I said they are. None are humane for the unborn life only humane for the women who have the right to kill the unborn

Pro abortion are the ones who try to come up with every excuse why abortion is justified. Pro life says one thing that life begins at fertility. ( conception ). Your side can’t even decide when you believe that life begins some say when they’re viable some when they can feel pain when they have consciousness. Ect….. come up with one excuse and stay with it.
Really · 80-89, M
@missyann OK bye
missyann · 56-60
@Really thank you I . I’ve proved my point..