Im just gonna put this riiight here...

@SomeMichGuy which? The polling on strictly guns? Do they have one with only republicans being polled?

@Carla There was polling consistently showing a majority of even gun owners wanting reasonable reforms.

@SomeMichGuy im a gun owner, and very much for reform. And 34% of Republicans is not nothing.

@Carla It was higher...

@SomeMichGuy well...polls are not always a true picture. Most are fallible. hope you are right regarding the numbers.

@Carla Well, a lot depends upon how things are asked...

@SomeMichGuy true.

@Carla my question is, why do democrats oppose armed teachers or armed retired military or even police in schools if they want to stop school shootings, I remember a time when we went to school with our guns in a gun rack in our trucks so we could go hunting after school, we never had mass shootings . Wouldn’t putting armed personnel that are ready to stop shooters decrease the chances that someone would be going in and shooting up a school unless they have a death wish. My county has armed sheriffs in every school in the county, guess what, no shootings

@Prison1203 Lol

More guns doesn't stop it.

@SomeMichGuy at what point did I say more guns? Try to keep up, when Chicago said that they were going to be a shall issue license state the crime rate dropped. Why is that? Because criminals don’t like an armed populace, why? Because they want an easy target, not someone that can shoot them, I guess that blows your brains out, facts matter

@Prison1203


Arming teachers = more guns.

Ret'd military or police is no guarantee if anything other than more guns in the schools.

@SomeMichGuy and look at facts in kennesaw Georgia when the town made it law that every citizen that was able to own a weapon should arm their homes, crime went down remarkably
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/us/kennesaw-georgia-gun-ownership/index.html

@Prison1203 It's all I can do to not be insulting here, but what in the bloody hell makes you think anyone that shoots up a school wants to survive that?! Almost all of them that you hear in the news get killed already, they know they're not going to survive. They're at the point where they feel powerless, desperate, and ignored and they just want to make a big statement on their way out.

Besides that, arming teachers or having armed military vets at schools causes other problems. Don't you think it might freak students out to know the adults at school have guns? Might make it a hostile learning environment? What if a teacher or vet snaps and starts shooting up the school? What if a student manages to steal a teacher or vet's gun and shoots people? What if a teacher tries to shoot the school shooter but misses and hits an innocent student or two instead? What if a teacher or student uses the teacher's gun to commit suicide?

Here's a clue: less guns=less gun deaths.

@Prison1203 I read your CNN article about Kennesaw, and it doesn't say what you say it says. It says that in the last six years (leading up to March 2018) Kennesaw had only one murder and a violent crime rate under 2%; however, the law requiring gun ownership was passed in 1982. The article says nothing about a significant drop in crime after the law was passed. Probably a more significant reason for the low crime rate than the mandatory gun ownership law is the town's small population.

@Theyitis once again, the evidence is in front of you and you missed it, the law was passed in 1982 and so a law passed that is for more guns shows that it works and has worked since then

@Prison1203 Again, you don't read, understand, and respond to what is presented. You are not serious in your style of argument.

@Prison1203 No, once again you've demonstrated that you don't know how to read data and facts. The law was passed in 1982 and so a small town that already had a low crime rate continued to see a low crime rate after passing an admittedly unenforced law that amounts to a glorified political statement. No evidence connecting the low crime rate in the small town to the political statement.

@Theyitis no evidence? I would say a 40 year old law that has kept crime out of that town has worked, enforced or not, criminals do not know who has guns and who doesn’t, would you want to take a chance on breaking into someone’s home not knowing if they had weapons or not, and kennesaw is just outside of Atlanta and we all know that criminals do not stay in their surrounding communities, they go out where it’s less likely they will be known and easier to do what they want

@Theyitis here’s data and facts for you, notice the big drop? https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crw6j02NddR/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

@Prison1203 There was already very little crime in that small town before the gun requirement was passed. You haven’t demonstrated that that law affected the crime rate at all.

Why should I believe anything that comes out of Tucker Carlson’s mouth?

@Theyitis https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/28582/did-the-crime-rate-drop-after-mandatory-gun-ownership-in-kennesaw-georgia