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Respect personal but not private property

Capitalists try to persuade people with the idea that personal property and private property are the same things. As a result, they are unwilling to accept the way the latter exploit others.

Personal property:
• It is a property purchased solely for private
use and cannot generate profit
• Ownership rights remain with the individual
who owns the items
• it is not used to exploit anyone
• leftists do not criticize the concept of personal
property

Private Property:
• property that generates profit by exploiting
people especially workers
• Owned by a non-governmental legal entity
• The labor class gets exploited by capitalists

Private property needs to be abolished and turned over into common ownership. The only way to truly liberate society from the control of rich elites and the private interests of the few.

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BizSuitStacy · M

Oh joy...the communists are posting to SW again.

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RebelliousSpirit · F

@BizSuitStacy hell yeah 🤘☭

BizSuitStacy · M

@RebelliousSpirit Well, you gotta celebrate the ideology that caused more than 100 million deaths in the 20th century, right? Economic misery and genocide...the two communist constants. So, when is the big revolution happening in the US?

RebelliousSpirit · F

@BizSuitStacy Not quite I am an anarcho communist and my people were locked up and killed by authoritarian communists. If you want to call out the crimes of Chinese communism I am with you.

I don't see one happening anytime soon but I won't give up hope.

RebelliousSpirit · F

@BizSuitStacy Examples of my ideology would be Makhnovshchina an anarchist commune that was destroyed by the Bolsheviks or an example of today would be Rojava

BizSuitStacy · M

@RebelliousSpirit So...when are all y'all gonna start the party?

RebelliousSpirit · F

@BizSuitStacy While we are trapped in a two party system community work and protesting is all we can do.
Gradual change is change too after all the capitalist power and violence monopoly didn't build itself up over night so it would be unrealistic to assume it can be destroyed in a short period of time. We are no stupid proud boys.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit another "anarcho-communist". Thats an oxymoron by the way and it seems the word "anarcho/anarchism" seems to be inserted to give communism (mass centralised power) an air of freedom.

Communism and anarchism are polar opposites. Mutually exclusive.

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 😂😂 Read Kropotkin, Goldmann or Bakunin and look at societies like Rojava or Makhnovshchina.

You just proved you don't understand anything about left wing movements beyond Stalinist soviet ideas.
And communism would be a stateless, moneyless society and even the soviet states never claimed to have or want to archieve it.

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 The danger of authoritarianism is given under any system and must be fought.
China and the soviet union were state capitalist.
Did any worker have democratic rights within their workplaces? No
Was China or the soviet union build on Capitalism which is a core idea of marxism? No
Did they work on abolishing class differences? No

The list goes on.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit well aware of their works. And as we have interacted before i know full well you do not believe in the rights of the individual and will use collectivism or "its for your safety" to push agendas on people that dont agree. Example.......the response to covid. All you "stateless anarcho-communist" dissidents were very happy to ride rough shod over the individual and bodily autonomy. Not very "anarchist" of you.

Oh and i see you say anarchism will be achieved by "democracy". Theres plenty of anarchists that point out that voting is (in the end) amoral.

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 Yeah any from of organised society needs some basic agreements like to follow scientific archievements in order to combat a pandemic.
Something I share with the dude in your profile picture.

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 [quote]Oh and i see you say anarchism will be achieved by "democracy". Theres plenty of anarchists that point out that voting is (in the end) amoral.[/quote]

Being against bourgeois democracy which in the end is just an undemocratic process ruled by the rich. The US would be a prime example for this. Opposing this form of democracy is understandable.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit yes, he didnt care if the "unvaccinated" starved. Another fake anarchist.

So now you can put to bed the idea you are any sort of anarchist due to your response to covid and wanting to punish people ("consequences") for not following the doctrine of paid for "science"

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 Just shows you don't understand anarchism. Just cause there is no state doesn't mean responsabilities and solidarity amongst each other is gone.

The "paid for science" is a very uneducated take since the ones agreeing with you are a minority in a worldwide scientific community.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit yes, oppress the minority.....give yourself a pat on the back. Such a freedom fighting dissident rebel

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 Having evidence that suggests certain people are more likely to spread a virus or should test themselves to check whether they have it or not is not the same as oppression.
Right wing snowflake shit that's what your argument is. People whining about measures during a pandemic should not be tolerated.
You are acting like anarchism should put up no rules and responsibilities.
I just read up on other chats you had on the topic and you are a hopeless case not being able to understand the importance of certain measures when faced with a pandemic.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit doubling down on the oppression of people with a different opinion. And its not a right wing argument. The "right" were fully on board with medical tyranny and i will point out that pretty much all governments followed the same plan, "left" or "right". And your boy trump, was the front man for operation, warp speed maga injections.

Locking whole countries down, forcing people to wear masks (including children) mandating/coercing people (including children) into taking injections etc etc is tyranny.

You all had the chance to stand up to this but you buckled immediately and endorsed the insane response. Fake rebels.

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 For me the anarchist position is that there is no need for any mandation because there should be nobody who is medically able to have a vaccination that should come to the conclusion that they wouldn't do it given the benefits and security it provides to other people, as well as themselves. Community is too important to anarchism for the extreme selfish individualism of anti-vaxxers to fit into.

Currently legit distrust in government institutions and unfortunately also in scientific archivements leads to people not getting the vaccine based on misinformation. This makes some form of coercion necessary because the system created the basis for misinformation to grow within the population.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit what should be done with people that dont want an injection then? If people dont want the covid injection (for obvious reasons) they are going against "community"?

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 rebelling against scientific archivements and research is the downfall of any society and would lead to the destruction of progress.
Doctors can and have to wear these masks for hours when operating someone then people should be able to wear them at certain times when needed. In some asian countries people wear masks due to smog.

If people would stop outrage baiting and instead read up on countless research that has been done while also keeping in mind the good vaccines have done for humanity they would not fear it.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit haha please dont

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 Now it is not as relevant since with the current mutation and the health system not being endangered anymore.

But during hight of covid either get regulary tested and wear masks or get the vaccine while still make sure to be careful. Otherwise restricted access to vulnerable groups and certain areas due to a public health crisis.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit i didnt do any of that cult behaviour. In your version of society what should have been done with me and the millions of other people who took this stance? Imprisionment? Segregation? Let us starve like chomsky suggested? Pin us down and force inject people like some in the media were suggesting?

RebelliousSpirit · F

@gol979 [quote]But during hight of covid either get regulary tested and wear masks or get the vaccine while still make sure to be careful. Otherwise restricted access to vulnerable groups and certain areas due to a public health crisis.[/quote]

Paranoid freak 🙄

gol979 · 41-45, M

@RebelliousSpirit please elaborate. Where does the segregation end? Are we allowed out of our house on to public streets?

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