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BBC BS: Russian Reservists Fighting With Shovels

The latest war propaganda from the globalists is that the Russians have run out of ammo and are using shovels in hand-to-hand combat.

Um, no. They probably are using shovels, but it's not to fight. Too many people have died already.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64855760
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SW-User
Firsty, the shovel has been part of Russian reservist military kit for decades, and it said "could" be fought with firearms and shovels.

The reality is that frontline Russian troops are running out of ammo. I'm sorry if you have a problem with this.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User @SW-User You truly have no idea when you are being lied to do you? Very strange. The Russians are not out of ammo nor are they losing any ground. They are decimating the Ukrainians and we in the west should be calling for a halt to the conflict. People are needlessly dying everyday and Ukraine is suffering the most. The west made a huge mistake when it abandoned the Minsk Accords and Ukraine is paying the price. Oh and the US is losing face in the world as well as it is shown to be a paper tiger. Russia and China have formed a trade alliance and have allies across the globe. The US is the biggest loser even though Ukraine is suffering the greatest loss of life.
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 They are decimating the Ukrainians? Prove it. They're not out of ammo or losing ground? Prove it.

Also, Russia abandoned the Minsk II agreement because they denied they were even in Donetsk and Luhansk and were therefore not parties to the conflict.

Plus, of course, they then invaded Ukraine.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User Go do some actual research. Do you live in a cave? There are videos of the Ukrainian tanks that have been turned into scrap metal. Any combat veteran I have listened to all say the same thing. Ukraine is losing and losing very badly. Bakhmut has been sealed off and the 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been left to fend for themselves. Run to friendly territory miles away or fight to the death or surrender. They are not about to be relieved and they are not about to be resupplied.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User If you don't believe me maybe you could listen to Ukrainian president Zelensky. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64793923
@SW-User Try to finish reading the entire article instead of just the first could of sentences. It's not implying the shovels "could be" used in fighting. It's saying they are being used in fighting...but they can't confirm it.

The continued use of the shovel "as a weapon highlights the brutal and low-tech fighting which has come to characterise much of the war", it said.

One of the reservists described being "neither physically nor psychologically" prepared for the action, the update added.

"Recent evidence suggests an increase in close combat in Ukraine," it said.

"This is probably a result of the Russian command continuing to insist on offensive action largely consisting of dismounted infantry, with less support from artillery fire because Russia is short of munitions."

The BBC has been unable to independently verify these reports. The ministry did not give information on where such battles were taking place.

Note that last paragraph. Western media can't confirm any of it. You can't confirm the alleged Russian ammo shortage. You can't confirm Russia is losing.

We can confirm Zelinskyy begging for the US to send troops. Why? You said he's winning?
SW-User
@BizSuitStacy That’s not what you said in the OP. You called it BS BBC propaganda: Reservists fighting with shovels.

Try to remember what you originally wrote.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User So you think that the Russians are fighting with shovels? Really? Now that is funny!!!!
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 No. it’s what the OP implied although they knew it wasn’t true either.

The reality is the Russian troops are running low on ammo. Sorry if you have a problem with this.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User Too Funny!!!! You nor I have any idea about the ammo supply in Russia. We do know that Ukraine is out of ammo and is begging for more. Sadly the US and its allies are out of ammo too. Britain is suggesting sending depleted uranium tank shells to help but that could have some real consequences that we don't even want to consider. Russia it would seem is winning this war and the west is the biggest loser. The west's propaganda is so outlandish as to be unbelievable.
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 The onus is on you to prove your claims. Go ahead 😂
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User I already posted some. You didn't read it?
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 no you didn’t.
@SW-User The article is bullshit! Are you just dense or do you enjoy putting your lack of reading comprehension skills are on full display? I'm sure if the Russian are out of ammo and are fighting with shovels, you have pictures and/or video evidence to confirm it. We'll wait.
SW-User
@BizSuitStacy prove it’s wrong. The onus is on you.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SW-User No one needs to prove anything. One only needs to look at the conditions on the ground. Ukraine is losing very badly and Ukraine is out of ammo and begging the west for more. Of course Ukraine is also out of soldiers and thus is demanding that the US send troops to prop up Ukraines sagging lines.
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ididntknow · 51-55, M
@SW-User Are the Ukraine army are running out of ammo, Do you believe propaganda is used by the American government ?
ididntknow · 51-55, M
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