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Bakhmut the city in Ukraine that Zelinski said would never fall has fallen. The Ukrainian forces are now blowing up bridges between Bakhmut and the rest of Ukraine in an effort to slow the advance of Russian forces. Estimates of Ukrainian armed forces personnel losses exceed 600,000 dead wounded, deserted and captured. At the outset Ukraine said it had just under 600,000 troops it could throw into the fight. It is time we all sought peace and not war. Ukraine has fallen and there is nothing to be gained by trying to re-fight the war. Sadly for Americans and Canadians and the British we have not been well served by our propaganda outlets who make it sound like Ukrainian victory is imminent. The only thing that continued war will benefit is the arms industry as they crank out more arms and munitions to keep the meat grinder turning.
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revenant · F
Lots of NATO countries are going to wonder why on earth they spent so much money to Zelinsky !
@revenant Actually, NATO knows [i]exactly[/i] why. Russia has been greatly weakened by this "special military operation" and they can't afford it like we can.


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@dippyjoe: even if these numbers were exaggerated by a factor of TWO, it's still a cheap price for weakening Russia this much. Russia has spent most of its modern equipment; they are down to antique unreliable Soviet era weapons. NATO got a bargain.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues If you believe NATO propaganda you also believe the vaxes saved humanity. Sorry son but your sources are simply nonsense. Do try to get better information.
revenant · F
@ElwoodBlues well..no.