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Finding some real creepy misinformation in Association for Size Diversity and Health's website.

[quote]What’s worse is this thin-centric healthcare is not benign. It causes harm. One study showed fat women who intentionally lost at least 15% of their body weight were over two times higher risk of death compared to fat women who remained weight stable. Another study found that risk of dying from cardiovascular disease was higher in people who lost weight. That risk increased with more weight lost and the group that lost over 22 pounds was at 3.5 times higher risk of dying from cardiovascular disease compared to the weight stable group.

Yet, many healthcare providers encourage weight loss for all fat patients despite this evidence. Some healthcare providers refuse to offer care like medication, referrals to physical therapy, and even deny surgery unless patients pursue and attain weight loss. This unethical approach to healthcare may account for all of the health disparities seen in fat people, and [b]body size may not have any direct effect on health.[/b][/quote]


I'm in favor of body positivity, broadly, and stuff, but the mechanics behind obesity causing joint & heart problems are so basic and observable that denying it puts you on par with like, a flat earther. I'm sure there are other organizations which do similar advocacy but aren't run by quacks. Fat people really can't catch a break, can they? They have to deal with constant stigma and mockery from the broader culture, the food industry fights tooth and nail to make healthy eating harder for them, and then one of the organizations positioning themselves as their allies are malignantly batshit crazy.
Graylight · 46-50, F
There’s a lot of science – and pop science – going on here. Yes, it’s been demonstrated that women who yo-yo diet and lose unhealthy amounts of weight in a short time are prone to serious medical conditions over time. It’s also true that the “standards” by which weight is measured are woefully inadequate at best. There are an many body types as names and applying a single template to all of them is absurd.

But…that’s not exactly what the article says. It’s a cherry-[icked argument to make one side appear stronger.

I think the point the more honest part of them wants to make is that being overweight does not inherently make you less healthy. Its risks are well-known, but what is often ignored is the consistently poor nutrition and physical state the average human body is in.

Playing devil’s advocate for this group (which I’m not familiar with), I’d say they’re message is to love and accept yourself first by banishing some of the most constant chiding and stigma; once a person is ready to tackle a problem he or she can learn more.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Graylight Yeah, the rest of the article is fine, and the group stands for some cool stuff. Fat shaming bad and the individual responsibility framing of obesity definitely causes some problems. But saying that being obese doesn't hurt your health in itself? Yikes.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
I've never heard of this, I mean if there's a good amount of evidence and not just a few studies with a small sample size, it's important. There are sure problems when one loses weight steeply and especially with extreme diets, but here they're talking about all people who have lost weight I assume. Unless they are hiding this "detail".
BlueVeins · 22-25
@HannibalAteMeOut I don't find that part so ridiculous, just included it for context. I haven't dug into that claim, but it makes sense intuitively that extreme weight loss could go hand in hand with nutrient deficiencies and stuff idk.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@BlueVeins true, but to the point of discouraging people from losing weight when they're obese (and have other health issues waiting for them)... that's quite extreme.

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