Asking
Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

I'm all in favor of slavery reparations . . .

I'm completely in favor of slavery reparations . . .

But the current approach is untenable. Will 50 states have 50 different standards for qualification, and different payout formulas? California seems to be in the forefront of this issue – even though they were always a free state, and never had slavery. What's to stop black Americans from moving to California by the millions to get “their share”? The same sort of internal migration that is happening into legalized pot states to camp on sidewalks, collect welfare benefits, etc?

Reparations is an issue that needs guardrails around it – a national standard. I don't want some future supreme court case (“Ho v. Quaid”?) muddying the waters with a razor thin majority decision. One which declares some state programs legal, other illegal, and still others subject to 25 years of future litigation, as politicians hope for a “rebalancing” of the justices between political parties.

So . . in the interest of helping our great nation arrive at an equitable solution which applies to ALL states, here goes my list of suggestions

1. You cannnot collect slavery reparations if you moved here after the civil war. Period. Hard stop. Your ancestors were never slaves. And don't hurry to get your nieces and cousins over before the payout. Limited to ACTUAL descendants of slaves, not posers.

2. You cannot collect slavery reparations if you are in jail for a capital offense like murder. Or are a drug kingpin. Or have a net worth of millions because you're a big time rapper, Neo Nazi sneaker endorser, sports superstar, famous actor, etc. Back of the bus for you guys.

3. If you're behind on child support, your reparations check goes FIRST to your baby momma and her struggling kids. If there's any money left over, you can laugh all the way to the bank, homie . ..

4. A special tax – either one time, or ongoing – must be approved by congress to pay for slavery reparations. We are so NOT adding trillions more to the national debt because of this. Each American family already owes $300,000 in accumulated federal debt– this is why we're all living paycheck to paycheck. And no cutting federal funding for things like public schools, medical care, veterans benefits, etc. to cover reparations. These are important programs too.

5. The new tax – if and when it is implemented – is only applicable to you if your white ancestors arrived BEFORE the civil war. If they were refugees from world war 1, world war 2, korea, vietnam, etc … you can put a big fat zero in this line item on your tax return.

6. Acceptance of the reparations payment, and/or depositing the check, releases all federal, county, and municipal governments from future litigation and liability over slavery. It is not an admission of guilt – reparations are a good faith effort to redress grievous mistakes made by a bunch of people who died hundreds of years ago.

7. Chinese “coolie” labor, used to build parts of the transcontinental railroad, is not covered by this program

8. Whites who were brought to America under similar contract worker programs during colonial times are also excluded from collecting reparations – nannies; farmhands; lumberjacks; miners; shipwrights; stonemasons – these men (and women) were paid for their work, and in many cases got free land when their contracts were up. Some even went on to own slaves . .

9. Current H1B work visa holders are not eligible under this program. You may, in fact, be getting paid “below average wages” compared to native born programmers, engineers, and doctors . . .but you went into this with your eyes open. Look before you leap. You are NOT a slave, you're simply an exploited worker. And less exploited than uber drivers, Starbucks baristas, and amazon “pickers”.

10. Native Americans – Sorry, but I don't have a good answer for you. Most of YOUR ancestors stole their hunting grounds from other, more peaceful tribes, and kidnapped their women, and tortured their men to death. You should be ashamed. Continue to litigate, if you think you can make a case. We will watch your progress with “great interest”, as emperor Palpatine put it in that Star Wars prequel.

Are we good then? Still want to proceed? Okay – I see a hand up in the back. Yes – Rhode Island – what is your question? Okay, I heard that – this week one of your Latinx politicians proposed slavery reparations, even though you were among the most northern and free-est liberal states among the 13 colonies. WTF are you thinking? You even proposed payouts to white Rhode Island residents. Explain to me – and to America – why this isn't just some crazy stunt to swing votes in an election. I'm waiting . ..
This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
Why are you for reparations and who should pay who?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@pianoplayingsteve so you're saying you read the title, but NONE of the post, LOL? Are you reading impaired?
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida no, i read it all. Who is paying for this reparation and why?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@pianoplayingsteve clearly you did not. either your a liar or a moron
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida I read it all. You spoke of no reparations for murderers, those behind on child support having their money go straight to their kids etc.

It is quite a simple question to answer, for someone calling me a moron. You never said who specifically pays these reparations, you just used the vague term of 'tax' and at one point made reference to 'whites' (whoever they are) who arrived before the civil war.

Now I know the bread and butter of this site is to post eye grabbing things and go 'hur hur you are a moron' if anyone asks for any elaboration, disagrees or ask a question as most people here don't actually wish to develop ideas with others here, they just wish to feel smarter than others and have their beliefs echoed back at them.

However I ask because many things are unclear. What if it is discovered that a black family is related to a black slave trader who sold black slaves to American slave plantations? Do they have to pay reparations?

What of 'whites' who share a percentage of their genetic lineage with a black person who was enslaved. Do they only have to pay a percentage of the tax or do they get a percentage of the reparations?

Do other ethnic groups who were disproportionately overrepresented in slave ownership also have to pay reparations? And should they pay more relative to their overrepresentation?

And how about reparations for Americans of European decent who are descended from slaves who were traded in the ottomon slave trade, the largest slave trade in history?

And how about reparations for other forms of slavery, such as interest debt slavery and fractional reserve banking? How about reparations for the federal reserve act which stole the gold from Americans and replaced it with a federal reserve note which is loaned to governments at interest meaning the population is doing more work than what the note is worth, aka free labour, with threat of imprisonment if the built in debt isn't paid back? Aka slavery.

I'm not the first to raise such points and I don't see what is 'moronic' about them. I'd be interested to know your answers to these, to be explained how they make me a moron and how I'm also apparently unable to read whilst being able to type this.

Thanks :)
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@pianoplayingsteve i said congress should debate and pass a law determining the taxes for reparations, and cited broad exclusion guidelines. you are unbelievably stupid.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida 'i can't think of the answers myself, that's why congress should do it. You are unbelievably stupid for thinking about things though'.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@pianoplayingsteve when i tried to visit yorur profile, SW flashes the following warning:

This user has been warned due to multiple violations of our Terms of Service.
Reason: Inappropriate comments or posts

evidently you are a scourge upon this website, lol. and lack any self control or awareness. enjoy your pariah-dom
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@pianoplayingsteve Throw all kinds of BS at the wall, some is sure to stick.