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LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
'Ukraine just banned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.' - 'Banned' ? Likely more exaggeration by you. They have been raiding various religious sites looking for collabarators.
The Ukranian Orthodox Church , an organisation headed by Patriarch Kirill , sanctioned by both the UK and the EU for his “prominent support of Russian military aggression in Ukraine.” , and referred to by Pope Francis as 'Putin's altar boy'.
Opposition has also been registered across the Orthodox world and from within the ranks of the Russian Orthodox Church itself, with individual priests and entire congregations seeking to distance themselves from the Patriarch as the horrors of the conflict in Ukraine have become increasingly apparent.
Patriarch Kirill has come under fire for repeatedly portraying the invasion of Ukraine as a holy war while endorsing Putin’s denials of Ukrainian independence and repeating Kremlin propaganda about imaginary fascists.
A bit like you then in that respect.
The Ukranian Orthodox Church , an organisation headed by Patriarch Kirill , sanctioned by both the UK and the EU for his “prominent support of Russian military aggression in Ukraine.” , and referred to by Pope Francis as 'Putin's altar boy'.
Opposition has also been registered across the Orthodox world and from within the ranks of the Russian Orthodox Church itself, with individual priests and entire congregations seeking to distance themselves from the Patriarch as the horrors of the conflict in Ukraine have become increasingly apparent.
Patriarch Kirill has come under fire for repeatedly portraying the invasion of Ukraine as a holy war while endorsing Putin’s denials of Ukrainian independence and repeating Kremlin propaganda about imaginary fascists.
A bit like you then in that respect.
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LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Ok , I did , and guess what ? ...... you're wrong again. I knew it would be an exaggeration on your part , and I was right.
They haven't banned the Russian Orthodox Church , they have banned the activities of religious organizations “affiliated with centers of influence” in Russia and said it would examine the links between the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox churches.
"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed a decree enacting a National Security and Defense Council decision to impose personal sanctions against representatives of religious organizations associated with Russia, which invaded Ukraine more than nine months ago.
Zelenskyy’s decree additionally provided for examining the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, one of two Orthodox bodies in Ukraine following a schism that in 2019 resulted in the establishment of one with independence from the Russian church." - AP https://apnews.com/article/zelenskyy-kyiv-religion-europe-government-and-politics-7eaf9ac19b000a2147f0204877a0004e
They haven't banned the Russian Orthodox Church , they have banned the activities of religious organizations “affiliated with centers of influence” in Russia and said it would examine the links between the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox churches.
"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed a decree enacting a National Security and Defense Council decision to impose personal sanctions against representatives of religious organizations associated with Russia, which invaded Ukraine more than nine months ago.
Zelenskyy’s decree additionally provided for examining the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, one of two Orthodox bodies in Ukraine following a schism that in 2019 resulted in the establishment of one with independence from the Russian church." - AP https://apnews.com/article/zelenskyy-kyiv-religion-europe-government-and-politics-7eaf9ac19b000a2147f0204877a0004e
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@LegendofPeza Ever hear of a man named Bonhoeffer? Maybe if you were a little more historically literate you wouldn't sound so foolish all the time.
LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 wtf does he have to do with the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine ? Oh yeah , nothing at all.
I just disproved your wildly exaggerated claim , like I disprove just about everything you post.
Your deflections are laughable.
And as for historically literate , you don't even know what's happening today , never mind what happened in the past. You live in a reality entirely of your own making.
I just disproved your wildly exaggerated claim , like I disprove just about everything you post.
Your deflections are laughable.
And as for historically literate , you don't even know what's happening today , never mind what happened in the past. You live in a reality entirely of your own making.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I support the Ukrainian people's right to defend themselves from tyranny.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Ryderbike If you think that..... NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!! If it weren't for misinformation you wouldn't have any information at all.
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LegendofPeza · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 So you're denying Russia tried to take Kiev now ...... lol
justanothername · 51-55, M
You sound like a devoted fan of Putin. Full of inaccurate propaganda as a way of spreading your message.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@justanothername Thanks for confirming my point. The US is a rogue nation that runs all over the globe starting wars and dragging its allies into the wars with them.
justanothername · 51-55, M
@hippyjoe1955 The only thing “rogue” about the US is Trumps moronic right wing sheep.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@justanothername Yawn. So tell me how many wars Trump started. Roosevelt had WWII, Truman had Korea, Eisenhower was dabbling in Vietnam, Kennedy had Cuba, Johnson increased Vietnam, Nixon ended Vietnam Ford had Angola, Carter had Iran, Reagan had Grenada, Bush had Iraq, Clinton had Kosovo, Bush had Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama had Syria and Libya. Trump didn't start any wars. Biden started Ukraine. If you have a point to make now would be a very good time to start.
ElwoodBlues · M
No, they didn't ban the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
Another dippyjoe falsehood - quelle suprise!
Another dippyjoe falsehood - quelle suprise!
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ElwoodBlues · M
@hippyjoe1955 Gosh, I defeat you in debate so you delete my answers. Is there anything more intellectually cowardly than you? This time I'm saving a copy so I can re-post it each time you delete it.
Your original claim, "Ukraine just banned the Orthodox Church in Ukraine" is false. No church has been banned.
You say there have been raids. That's not a ban, is it.
What sort of raids? By whom?? Which churches???
You are hiding behind vagueness and moving the goalposts.
No church has been banned in Ukraine.
Go ahead, delete all my arguments you can't counter - show us who you REALLY are!!!
Your original claim, "Ukraine just banned the Orthodox Church in Ukraine" is false. No church has been banned.
You say there have been raids. That's not a ban, is it.
What sort of raids? By whom?? Which churches???
You are hiding behind vagueness and moving the goalposts.
No church has been banned in Ukraine.
Go ahead, delete all my arguments you can't counter - show us who you REALLY are!!!
BizSuitStacy · M
The term "democracy" gets tossed about like it's powdered sugar. Stick in in front of a word like socialism, and it makes authoritarianism ok. The danger of democracy is mob rule and left unchecked can eventually lead to authoritarianism.
PhoenixPhail · M
I don't know about your country, but my country is hardly a model of democracy. The US is a two-party dictatorship masquerading as a democratic republic. And that masquerade is so convincing, it keeps people believing they're living in democracy.
revenant · F
No. Church should not be banned. The left will make up anything to justify their cause anyway.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@LegendofPeza You do need to learn to read. Your ignorance in these matters is stupendous. Is there anything you 'don't' know?
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msros · F
The Patriarch Krill was supporting Putin which Ukraine did not like.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
I’m waiting for it to be Kanye’s punchline..
Yu’al been supporting azof nazis for months now.. 🍿
Yu’al been supporting azof nazis for months now.. 🍿
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Ryderbike You and your conspiracies. Too funny!!!!
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah the conspiracy like all the countries in the world are lying about the Russian invasion.
Can you even hear yourself?
Can you even hear yourself?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Ryderbike You keep posting that silly picture of the guy holding the Q. You it would seem are into conspiracy theories. Not sure where you get such nuttery but it does make you look extremely foolish and great fun to laugh at.