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This election was the best thing that could happen to Republicans

1) Winning back the House enables Repulicans to block Biden's catastrophic big brother legislation as well as to set some of the legislative agenda. It also allows for hearings on some of the misdeeds of the current administration.

2) When the shit hits the fan over the Biden policies the Democrats won't be able to blame a Republican congress. The Republicans were not the "dog that caught the car".

3) Trump was seriously damaged. The Trump mystique, to the extent it still existed, may now be gone. This will allow serious Republican candidates to emerge and compete using conservative ideas to bring our society back to sanity.

Happy trolling! 😋
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The Republicans will waste the next two years on performative crap like abortion bans and outlawing things that don’t exist, like CRT and kitty litter boxes in elementary schools. They will also hold hearings on non-issues like Hunter’s laptop. I say bring it on, it’s the best way to ensure a Democratic sweep in 2024.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@LeopoldBloom I suggest you read the book American Renewal.

https://www.americanrenewalbook.com/

Yes, there is a conservative roadmap and it's not what you say. Have a great day.
@irishmolly72 LOL "Optimism, Cooperation, and Community." You may want to send a copy to Marjorie Taylor Greene. It's more like "Projection, Divisiveness, and Rage."

I was listening to Michael Savage today, who is about as far right as you can get. He said the Republicans' poor showing was that they didn't have a positive vision for the country; it was just "vote for us to stop Biden." It's difficult to win an election by just saying "I'm not the other guy."

Anyway, this election gives the Republicans an opportunity to reflect on what direction they want to go, and it looks like they've decided it's impeaching Biden and investigating Hunter, Pelosi, and I guess why not Obama.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom
non-issues like Hunter’s laptop

You really think that's a non issue? Filled with evidence that there were secret dealings with China, and Ukraine with Hunter as the emissary? It doesn't concern you that this guy was selling his father's influence while also using illegal drugs and soliciting prostitutes? Then stupidly leaving said laptop with a random repair shop?

I think there is a LOT to investigate here...
@SumKindaMunster It's a nothingburger. The laptop has been through so many hands, any evidence on it is hopelessly compromised. But since the Republicans won't be able to pass any meaningful legislation, I get it that they need to do something. So fine, investigate Hunter's laptop, hold hearings on the Afghanistan withdrawal, heck, hold hearings on gas prices. I hope Biden ignores them the way Trump ignored the Democrats' investigations. Of course, Republicans will scream about "contempt of the law" while excusing Trump for doing the same thing.

It's hilarious that the same people who think Hunter's laptop is the crime of the century are saying the Jan. 6 committee is a "witch hunt." Who cares about a few rowdy tourists, nothing to see here.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom Ya know I am totally fine with your opinion on this and maybe it will go the way you think...but, this is crap and you know it:

The laptop has been through so many hands, any evidence on it is hopelessly compromised

It isn't and Hunter has confirmed it was his and had no comment on its contents. Same with Biden. It's legit, and yeah maybe there isn't anything there, but spare me this thoroughly debunked talking point. It's his, the photos on it are him, and we deserve to know what he was doing on behalf of his father, who is now President, on his trips to China and Ukraine.

It's hilarious that the same people who think Hunter's laptop is the crime of the century are saying the Jan. 6 committee is a "witch hunt." Who cares about a few rowdy tourists, nothing to see here.

I don't disagree that there are people who believe this, I am one of them. I wouldn't categorize it as nothing but rowdy tourists though. From my perspective, its difficult to see how Trump was going to overthrow the government on this. It's interesting to me how Trump is a idiot buffoon on so many things, but apparently he is a devious mastermind on constitutional law and even though it isn't clear how, he had a plan to overthrow the US government and install himself as President. It doesn't pass the smell test and there are very real, and very compelling reasons why the Democrats needed to make a lot of fuss about this, considering Trump is running again, and had selected multiple candidates during the midterms. It's very obviously a political witch hunt, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences for those that broke the law and committed acts of violence on that day.
@SumKindaMunster If Trump and his cohorts were involved in any planning of the events that day, shouldn't there be consequences for them, and not just the perpetrators? Imagine if Biden had lost the election, and had coordinated with his own followers to storm the Capitol in an effort to prevent Congress from certifying Trump's win? I would definitely want him investigated for that.

Trump also clearly had possession of documents he wasn't authorized to have, and the idea that he "declassified them with his mind" is ludicrous. There are specific procedures for declassifying documents and if that happened, there would be a record of it. He needs to be held accountable if he broke the law in that area.

Same for the election tampering in Georgia, which went beyond just a phone call to Raffensperger. Again, if a Democrat had done that, I'd want them held accountable.

There's so much BS swirling around Hunter Biden, it's hard to tell what's real and what's just a Republican fever dream. But if the House wants to investigate that, they should. If either Hunter or Joe committed any crimes, they should be held accountable, too. As I said earlier, the House will only be able to pass performative legislation, like outlawing abortion or Critical Race Theory or "wokeness," so investigating and impeaching Biden is pretty much all they will be able to accomplish in any real sense. And this assumes McCarthy can keep his entire caucus on board. He's nowhere near the politician Pelosi is. All that's needed are a few Republicans in swing districts whose internal polling tells them that opposing performative legislation plays better than supporting it.

Trump's hold on the GOP and on conservative media is weakening, and the people in charge are starting to see him as more of a liability. So letting the DOJ or Fani Willis take him out will be a huge relief as it will clear the field for his successor.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom I would have appreciated a non partisan investigation into the totality of the event, not just a partisan show trial where they spent all their time on TRRRRUUUUMMMMPPPP instead of maybe looking into why the response to the riot was poor and unprepared for they broke into the Capital building.

If either Hunter or Joe committed any crimes, they should be held accountable, too.

Good I agree. It's pretty clear from what we've seen so far that Joe Biden was apparently peddling his influence through his son and accepting payments for future policy changes. I think this is a very vital thing to investigate considering one of those countries was Ukraine, and here we are literally backing an army on Russia's doorstep, while they threaten us with nuclear annihilation. I'd like to know what was discussed and promised considering the situation we are dealing with right now.

I don't really have any comments regarding the new Republican leadership, I'm inclined to agree with you on their priorities, although I wonder about CRT, that seems to be a dead issue already, looks like they dropped it after they made it a campaign issue in Virginia and lost because of it.

So letting the DOJ or Fani Willis take him out will be a huge relief as it will clear the field for his successor.

Hm, weird how they announced that after he announced his run for Presidency. If he indeed needed a special investigator why did they wait until he decided to run? Seems politically motivated, I'm seeing some of the same missteps the political elite and media made around Trump in 2015/2016, giving him a mouthpiece(all of a sudden he's back on cable news) and making him seem dangerous and someone to be afraid of.
Bill1372 · 51-55, M
@SumKindaMunster if Trumps kids had behaved like Hunter Biden, LeopoldBlooms head would be popping off.. LeoBloom is a hypocrite
Rayce · M
@LeopoldBloom Dumb troll alert ⚠️
@Bill1372 Trump's kids are worse than Hunter. If you had any integrity, you'd be asking why Jared Kushner got a multi-billion dollar loan from the Saudis.
@Rayce The difference is that if Biden or Hunter committed any crimes, I would want them punished. You, on the other hand, think Trump should be above the law. You're just as big of a traitor to America as he is.

What are you going to do when he's arrested? Riot again?
@SumKindaMunster Any interest in why Jared Kushner got a multi-billion dollar loan from the Saudis? What about the IRS failing to audit Trump for several years? So much for the "deep state," it looks like they were in Trump's pocket. At least we know why he was so intent on keeping his tax returns private. Move along, nothing to see here.

And if you'd been paying attention, the committee did look into why the response to the riot was so inadequate. But if you fell for the lie that Nancy Pelosi refused assistance or that she was in charge of the Capitol Police, obviously the committee didn't pander to that nonsense.

The upcoming hearings will be pure performance art, assuming McCarthy can figure out how to appeal to both sides of his caucus. All Hakeem Jeffries needs is to peel off five Republicans. Should be interesting.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom
The difference is that if Biden or Hunter committed any crimes, I would want them punished

How are we supposed to find out when people like you keep promoting nonsense about this issue instead of supporting an investigation?

Any interest in why Jared Kushner got a multi-billion dollar loan from the Saudis?

Was it illegal? Covered up? Then yes, it should be investigated. If not, then no.

You care that Biden has walked backed his promises on being tougher on Saudi Arabia? The White House just had Bernie "lapdog" Sanders withdraw his bill to end support for the Saudi war in Yemen. You care?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom
And if you'd been paying attention, the committee did look into why the response to the riot was so inadequate. But if you fell for the lie that Nancy Pelosi refused assistance or that she was in charge of the Capitol Police, obviously the committee didn't pander to that nonsense.

Not really, they basically affirmed that she was not in charge of that, but they never did find out why the security response was so poor and lacking.
@SumKindaMunster Why should I support a witch hunt? But they will "investigate" it with or without my approval. At this point, it looks like bullshit to me, but if they find something substantive, I'll reconsider. All they have is one email saying "ten percent to the big guy" and Tony Bobulinski saying the "big guy" is Joe Biden. I'm not impressed.

Same with Kushner. If MBS gave him the loan because they're friends (apparently, they are), then no problem. If it was because Trump handed over some of the top secret documents he stole, that's different.

Maybe if the several dozen Trump acolytes who either refused to testify or took the fifth had spoken up instead, maybe we'd know why the response was so poor. Based on the available information, Trump sat on his ass watching the festivities while his daughter, Kevin McCarthy, and others begged him to intervene.