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Rep Eric Swalwell: Parents Should Not be in Charge of Children’s Education

"Please tell me what I’m missing here. What are we doing next? Putting patients in charge of their own surgeries? Clients in charge of their own trials? When did we stop trusting experts. This is so stupid.

Rep. Eric Swalwell
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Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
"Putting patients in charge of their own surgeries?"

As in sex re-assignment surgery...? 🤔

How's Fang-Fang doing, Eric?
@Thinkerbell I'm pretty sure those are done by doctors.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BohemianBabe So you approve of chopadickoffme for 10 year old's, eh?
SW-User
@Thinkerbell He had his dick reassigned to his head
@sunsporter1649 Strawmanning. I agree with the current law that bans children from getting sex reassignment surgery.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe

"I'm pretty sure those are done by doctors."

But done at the behest of the patient, so he/she is in charge of what is to be done.
The doctor is the technician who carries out the procedure.
@Thinkerbell Sure, but the point here is that we allow experts to handle things in certain fields. We don't have doctors and the patient's parents collaborating on surgeries.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe

Handle the mechanics of it, Boo.

And if you are trying to extend this to education, are you not aware that home schooling often gives better results than public schooling?

Swalwell's comparison is laughable. Does home surgery on a kitchen table often give better results than professional surgery? 😂
@Thinkerbell Yeah, that's what's being referred to. Though I would say it's not a one to one comparison. But yeah, we allow experts to handle things like teaching, medicine, road-building, and so on.

Homeschooling involves collaboration with the local school district. So even then, parents aren't fully handling the mechanics. Parents aren't coming up with studies and scientific formulas. Experts are still doing that.
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@Thinkerbell

Boo excreting his wisdom? 😂
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe

"Parents aren't coming up with studies and scientific formulas. Experts are still doing that."

And neither do most professional teachers. They just use materials prepared by others, just as homeschooling parents can use materials prepared by, say, the Calvert School.

https://www.calverthomeschool.com/
@Thinkerbell So we agree. Education, like many other fields, needs to have experts involved. And parents shouldn't be allowed to change education standards because they're afraid of trans people or they say WOKE a lot.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BohemianBabe Yup, those professionals in Louden County sure were looking out for the general populations education, eh?
@sunsporter1649 Are you autistic? Seriously asking.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BohemianBabe You are the one supporting the "professionals", not me
@sunsporter1649 Yeah, but you often reference something as if other people are supposed to know what it is. That's something autistic people do. So are you autistic?
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe

Wrong.

Homeschooling parents can obtain curricula from experts that are NOT woke, if they so choose.

And Swalwell's analogy is still utterly flawed. Do you suppose many people perform surgery at home by getting materials on line or by mail from medical experts on how to perform surgery?

The equivalent happens every day in education.
@Thinkerbell "Woke" doesn't mean anything. I was referring to Conservatards who shout WOKE every ten seconds.

Like I said, it's not a one to one comparison. But the same way experts do surgery, education needs to have experts involved.
I think most people don't understand how much government regulation is involved in homeschooling.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe

"But the same way experts do surgery, education needs to have experts involved."

No, it's NOT the same.

Surgery can be successfully performed only by by experts directly involved.

Education can be successfully performed by amateur homeschoolers with experts merely peripherally involved.
And the homeschoolers can choose experts whose philosophy agrees with their own.
@Thinkerbell
And the homeschoolers can choose experts whose philosophy agrees with their own.

They shouldn't be able to if their philosophy goes against reality. See, I'm fine with homeschooling. But the Conservatards who want to homeschool want to teach their kids things that are objectively wrong. That's just ignoring the experts.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe

So I take it you agree that surgery and education are not the same when it comes to degree of involvement by experts.

As for some "experts" in education, I think their ideas should be ignored.
I am against their teaching my grade-school kids about gender fluidity, for example, or puberty blockers, or oral and anal sex, masturbation, homoeroticism, etc.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/ny-lawmaker-wants-sex-ed-for-kindergartners/
@Thinkerbell
As for some "experts" in education, I think their ideas should be ignored.

Yeah, because you don't care about reality. Which is your right as an adult, but it's not fair for kids.

I am against their teaching my grade-school kids about gender fluidity, for example, or puberty blockers, or oral and anal sex, masturbation, homoeroticism, etc.

That's not being taught outside of maybe a fringe case. This is what I mean, you don't care about reality. You're repeating talking-points just because you heard them on TV.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BohemianBabe "Over $200K being spent on drag queen shows at NYC schools, records show"

Yup, ny is totally on the fringe of insanity
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@BohemianBabe

"Yeah, because you don't care about reality."

Sez you.
I think sexualizing young kids is a form of abuse, and there are experts who agree.

"That's not being taught outside of maybe a fringe case."

By one of the "experts" you so admire.

And you obviously did not read my link about the NY State senator who proposed the legislation to make exactly that kind of "education" mandatory in NY, in keeping with the recommendations of the "expert" Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States. 🙄
@Thinkerbell
I think sexualizing young kids is a form of abuse, and there are experts who agree.

Schools aren't sexualizing kids by teaching them that gay and trans people exist.

And you obviously did not read my link about the NY State senator who proposed the legislation to make exactly that kind of "education" mandatory in NY, in keeping with the recommendations of the "expert" Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States.

And did it pass? Is it law? NO?! So I was right, schools aren't teaching this. Stop being a sheep and just repeating the lies you hear in media. Republicans are pretending LGBT people are a threat to distract you from the fact that all of their policies are for the rich.