We already know the results of the upcoming election

@MistyCee

If the Democrats lose as big as they probably will, it won't be because of Trumpism.

It will be because too many Democrats are woke idi*ts who richly deserve to lose big.

@Thinkerbell however harshly they get crushed, it still isn't nearly harsh enough

@Thinkerbell

@Thinkerbell Why Democrats shoot themselves in the foot is a whole different issue than why Republicans embrace Trumpism.

But it's a good point, as is the fact that running against Trumpist candidates without insulting Trump voters is really tough.

Personally, I don't think Democrats should focus on wokeism or culture wars as much as the economy and play to where they can actually get swing-type voters, but either way, I agree with you that pointing out that Trump voters are suckers is not the best strategy.

Everything is worse with Joe.

@TallMtnMedic Yes. Yes, because nothing ever existed as an issue before Biden. You wouldn’t think the 111th generation would be this stupid, but we’ll pretend like one guy in two years shaped the history of America.

@MistyCee


But the economy (and many other non-Trump issues) are precisely what Democrats can't run on. That's why it's been Trump! TRUMP!! TRUMP!!! with them. Non-stop.

@MistyCee

I agree with you that pointing out that Trump voters are suckers is not the best strategy.

That's why you do that in every...single...post?

🙄

@Graylight 50 years in government, and everything hes touches as president has been a failure. So yeah, this is his doing.

@TallMtnMedic He is the ultimate Shit Midas

@SW-User And hes a racist on at that.

@SW-User Because I'm not running for office or even really trying to fight a political battle.

I'm here, expressing my own thoughts and opinions.

For example, I think Hillary saying that 1/3 of Trump voters are deplorable was politically stupid. But I don't think she was really wrong there, even though I personally would put the percentage higher.

@Thinkerbell
No doubt, it's a tougher battle ground and Trump is like low hanging fruit which is really hard to resist.

But I don't think Biden's record is really that abominable that it can't be defended, and he could still blame a lot of stuff on Trump, e.g., the Afghanistan withdrawal, the Iran nuclear stuff, Saudi Arabia, and even likely the Covid/economic issues, and push a positive message about what he's done in comparison to the former guy.

I'm not saying it's easy, but its better suited for him then fighting culture wars or going straight at Trumpism head on, imo.

@MistyCee


I think you are mostly right about that, but the Democrats can't stop with the stupid culture wars, for fear of having their woke base staying home and not voting.

@MistyCee Reject - Truth, justice and the American way?
Not likely.

@Budwick Maybe just the Kindergarten approach to them would be enough.

The post, and the particular aspect of Trumpism I was discussing was contesting every election a Trumpist candidate might lose as being "stolen," without any factual basis.

If that's the "American way", I hope voters do reject it.

@MistyCee
There hasn't been any of those.

@Thinkerbell I agree that totally ignoring "cultural issues" especially women's reproductive rights would be a mistake.

Same thing, to some degree is true, imo, of encouraging gun violence, voter intimidation, homophobia, etc, but the extreme Democratic "base" is not big enough to win on just opposing those things.

@Budwick And we're back to alternate facts.

@MistyCee
Or, what I like to call willfull ignorance.

[No - on your part.]

@Budwick Not just my ignorance though. There were a few courts (albeit ones with loyalties other than Trump) who don't buy the big lie as a proof of facts.

@MistyCee
Courts with loyalties?
Sounds crooked to me.

@Budwick It does doesn't it, especially since I left out a preposition.

But loyalty to the Constitution, the law, and institutions is, imo, really important, as opposed to loyalty to Trump or even any other particular office holder.

I know, the institutions could be corrupt, and Trump believes Article II gave him, and only him, greater powers then anyone else, and he's still claiming some of them, because he believes he was wrongfully deposed, etc.

@MistyCee Nice try - your initial comment was more honest.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave.

@MistyCee


But the Democrats can't hope to win if their extreme base stays home.
Therefore they humor the crazies (as quietly as possible during election season, so as not to alienate sensible voters).