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Trump was right. We should have pulled out of NATO

Democrats and liberals want the US to get into another war for Ukraine

We need to focus on making America strong. Let Ukraine defend itself
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ididntknow · 56-60, M
NATO are war mongers, if you can’t see that, you need to wake up
smiler2012 · 61-69
@ididntknow what😯 this is a force that has kept peace in europe since 1945 seen of the the soviet union threat and its final demise
marke · 70-79, M
@ididntknow
There is a difference between military support for unjustified invasions or atrocities and military support in opposition to unjustified invasions or atrocities. Is the UN known more for its unjustified aggression in oppressing innocent people or its justified defense of innocent people?
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@marke yes, look at Iraq, did they find the weapons of mass destruction ? NO, that’s for starters, do you think you can think of any others ?
@marke nato actthreatena Russia. Justify something else besides wars.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@ididntknow You're the second person on this thread who seemingly cannot differentiate between NATO and the UN , and has no clear memory , or understanding , of recent history.

NATO had no role in the decision to undertake the Iraq campaign.

The weapons inspectors worked for the UN. The inspectors did not find that Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons or that it had reconstituted its nuclear weapons program.

Regardless , the US went to war anyway. So don't try pinning your warmonger bullshit on NATO.
marke · 70-79, M
@LegendofPeza
Putin is wickedly blaming his barbaric invasion of Ukraine on the victim nation's application for membership in NATO. That is not right. If Ukraine wants to join NATO then what business is it of Putin's?
marke · 70-79, M
@ididntknow

Russia is not in NATO. What nation in NATO is more violently engaging in unjustified wars besides Russia?
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@marke Do you know that Ukraine has been bombing / bullying Russian areas of Ukraine since 2014, but I suppose to do that is ok,
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@ididntknow 'Ukraine has been bombing / bullying Russian areas of Ukraine since 2014'

There are no Russian areas of Ukraine. Ukraine is a sovereign country and has been fighting a Russian backed insurgency in the Donbas since 2014 after Russia illegally annexed Crimea.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@LegendofPeza would you say that the Russian speaking areas of Ukraine have been targeted and bullied since 2014, ie the Russian language is not allowed in those areas, what would you say the war in Ukraine is about, do you really think it’s about Ukraine sovereignty
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@ididntknow The Russian language was always allowed there. You're just parrotting Kremlin propaganda.

'what would you say the war in Ukraine is about, do you really think it’s about Ukraine sovereignty' - well according to Putin yeah. That's exactly what it's about . He believes there should be no such entity and that the lands should be returned to Russia. The genocide he has unleashed had that as its primary objective.
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LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@ididntknow Why would NATO want to do that , and how would a war , that Russia started , make it possible ?
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@LegendofPeza who said Russia started the war,
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@LegendofPeza in a word, POWER
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@ididntknow 'who said Russia started the war' - Russia.