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Jailed Irish Teacher Refuses Student’s Pronoun Demands

Enoch Burke is a devote Christian teacher at Wilson’s Hospital School, Co Westmeath, Ireland.

According to their website, “As part of our High School exchange programme, this school is located just over one hour from Dublin, this 7-day boarding school is a place of personal development where students pursue their studies and form lifelong friendships in a friendly and welcoming atmosphere.” Wilson’s is associated with the Church of Ireland.

Burke was put on paid administrative in late August for refusing to address a trans student as “they.” A disciplinary meeting is scheduled for September 14th.

Despite an order barring him from the campus, Burke continued to be present at the school resulting in his arrest for breach of the order.

Personally, I admire the teachers moxie. I also refuse to enable the WOKE.
The non-binary crap is stupid and encourages wrong behavior.

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SW-User

Gender non conformity has existed throughout history in various different cultures. Our view on sex and gender is heavily influenced by christian culture that never showed much respect towards others.
A teacher went out of his way to be disrespectful towards a student. Now the school took action against him and he couldn't accept it.

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SW-User

@MartinTheFirst I mean seeing our systems burn down would be neat but that's not tied to the gender debate. I wouldn't call myself sane but neither do I see you as a sane person.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@SW-User I really think it is! A political fire is ongoing right now as you can see from the above image. Teachers, the ones teaching the world, are the ones fighting this battle. TEACHERS 😂!!!

SW-User

@MartinTheFirst That's nothing 😂 Accepting and defending trans students at school is a good byproduct when having slightly left leaning governments in power. Real issues lie in economic structures and power hierachies.
I do beleive that there won't be any middle grounds anymore which makes way for ideological warfare of some sorts.

Vin53 · M

He wasn't arrested for speaking his mind, he was arrested for trespassing.

He could've and should've waited for his hearing to give his side and not put students and staff in peril by violating the order to stay clear of the premises.

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Vin53 · M

Thats all fine and dandy and they can apply it to their own life-style. This putz broke the law and did it at housing and schooling facility for children. He's in jail and soon to be unemployed and I'd expect nothing less if my kid was staying there.

@Budwick

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53

schooling facility for children.

Where mind altering education is underway.

Vin53 · M

All education is mind altering. It's entirely the point.

@Budwick

Carissimi · F

It’s disgraceful. Compelled speech violates our civil liberties. He should be applauded for his stand against the Woke Marxists.

soar2newhighs ·

One segment of society “transgenders “ (in some countries) are destroying , the “ English“ language.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@soar2newhighs For the betterment of no one!

soar2newhighs ·

Then how do we define a leprechaun? I knew things were going south in Ireland when they banned smoking in pubs! Glad the teacher stood on his principles!

Mikemcneil · 61-69, M

He was jailed for attending a place he was forbidden to enter. The rest is his own bullshit. Do the research Mr Transphobic hatred spewer. It's nothing to do with the pronouns. It's all about some religious nut job seeking attention. He'd get a good job in Texas

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Mikemcneil · 61-69, M

@Budwick you're clueless. He was jailed for contempt. Which is exactly what would happen to you before a judge.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Mikemcneil Wow, it went from trespassing to contempt pretty quick!
Or, are you pulling that out of male ass?

I know he was jailed.
The point is that it was / is unjust.
Or, do you know of a Pronoun Ordinance there?

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Vin53 · M

Listen, if a dude was ordered to stay away from my kid's school and that dude showed up there anyway, I'd want him hauled away and I mean toot-sweet.

Are you aware that kids have been shot at schools??

Isn't it up to the parents to decide who can advise their children as to their self-presentation?

If this dude was coming at this kid with a Muslim point of view I doubt you'd be taking his side.

You're showing your party's rampant hypocrisy bud.

@Budwick

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Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M

@Budwick you should be locked up and the key thrown away
Get a life

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Strictmichael75 Here, I will protect you from me. Buh-Bye.

DDaverde · 61-69, M

It’s a real woke problem for sure I wish
These wacky liberal parents and teachers
Have no right to do this to young children
It’s Sick! !!!

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Vin53 · M

Corrected spell-check and it wasn't directed at you anyhow.

That being said, this is a legal matter not a theology issue.

If you show up at a children's residence after the law has specifically ordered you NOT to, I expect every single parent of those children would demand you be hauled away to jail, religious motives not withstanding.

@Budwick

soar2newhighs ·

@DDaverde There should be movement of protest by all teachers who taught/ teach English.
This is not only bastardizing a language, it is contributing to the dumbing down of American education and students.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53

religious motives not withstanding.

What religious motives?
Are the children saying God wants them to do this?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53

the breadth of his intellect

Focus like a laser Vinny.
The topic is not any aspect of the author.
It is about the actions of the teacher and the school and police.

All caught up?

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53 Now, that is a far better argument than the other.

So, let's suppose the school was on fire, or on other danger, should Mr. Burke shrug his shoulders and walk away cuz they told him he's not allowed there?

Or, should he try to save as many kids as he can?

Vin53 · M

Yes, because THAT is such a poignant analogy...what is wrong with you man?

@Budwick

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53 So, let the kids burn, eh?

badminton · 61-69, MVIP

In this case I side with the Mr. Burke. He has a right to his point of view. I'm a true liberal which means I believe in freedom of speech, even for people I disagree with. To paraphrase Voltaire, " I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53 I think Mr. Burke is fervently dedicated his students and their well being.
And their well being is being threatened by WOKE ideology.

Shaveit · 61-69, M

@Vin53 he should have NEVER been ordered away to begin with
And I bet the “they” had a penis and is just looking for attention.

Vin53 · M

That's up for the school board to review. A restraining order, particularly one for a Boarding School, was and rightfully enforced.

@Shaveit

Abstraction · 61-69, M

He was not jailed for his Christian beliefs or for refusing to use the pronouns.
He was jailed for contempt of court for breaching court orders when placed on administrative leave and restrained from entering the school.

"The teacher continued to attend the school in violation of a court-ordered restraining order"
https://checkyourfact.com/2022/09/07/fact-check-irish-teacher-pronouns/

It's not the same thing. If he wants to make a stand on principle he could have continued to do so without breaking the law in contempt of court.

The misleading headlines in these posts and papers are designed to push the outrage button and manipulate. A little fact checking goes a long way to avoid being someone else's stooge.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Abstraction

The misleading headlines in these posts and papers are designed to push the outrage button and manipulate.

What is misleading with my headline?
Jailed Irish Teacher Refuses Student’s Pronoun Demands

Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M

@Abstraction budwick is a troll

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Strictmichael75

budwick is a troll

I would block him if I were you.

Vin53 · M

Oh, and by the way...devote is a verb. The word you wanted is devout.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53 Thanks - I'll pass that on to the author of the article.

Vin53 · M

Its simply indicative of the breadth of his intellect is what I'm pointing out.

@Budwick

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@SW-User

The school are complying with reality.

No, the school is not.
Boys have a penis, girls have vaginas.
Class dismissed.

Mikemcneil · 61-69, M

@Budwick I bet you're an evangelical nut. Old Testament whacko. Pro life?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Mikemcneil I bet you're not.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

That's extremely smart of him. The only way they'll get away with their shit is if it goes by unnoticed, because the majority with a brain understand that this is crazy.

Edit after reading the replies to this post: Ugh I've gotta stay away from politics completely, this world is doomed either way.

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@Vin53

if you can't handle the heat...

You intend to apply heat?
Get up in peoples faces?
Bother them at restaurants and gas stations?
Well is that it - punk?

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Vin53 I was more thinking about the saying don't toss pearls before swine.. but you know... we just don't see the world the same way.

Vin53 · M

I was also leaning towards don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I guess we have opposite viewpoints.

@MartinTheFirst

graphite · 61-69, M

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trollslayer · 46-50, M

Why do you care?

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@trollslayer It's a stupid thing of the left.

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@Budwick Are you sure? The only times I have heard the term it has been from someone on the right. Still can't figure out what they mean, though. I know it binds their undies.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@trollslayer Check Google - they'll entertain you endlessly.

AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M

Sounds like the emerald island is abandoning their Catholic roots .

Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M

@AthrillatheHunt Really ? I don’t think so! Just a bigoted idiot not respecting others

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Strictmichael75

not respecting others

Yeah - that school should be allowed to indoctrinate THEIR children with any damn thing they want!

Sazzio · 31-35, M

A young person is feeling trans? *smh*

Mikemcneil · 61-69, M

@Sazzio your point?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Mikemcneil Are you gonna start harassing visitors to my post now?
Is this how it will end?

Sazzio · 31-35, M

@Mikemcneil IDK it's a messed up world BIG time. A school child? Already deciding such big decisions??

Nanori · F

Just remove those two pronouns :|

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