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Farmers who continually vote for the party of anti-immigration are struggling to find immigrants to work on their farms

"Farmers pushing for immigration reform to counter labor shortages and escalating food prices."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-pushing-immigration-reform-counter-labor-shortages-escalating-rcna45741?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
There is undocumented labor all over this area. It has always been laughable to me how two faced we are about this issue. We talk about the wall, close the border, send them home-- but it's *wink wink* when it comes to illegal labor. It's not my imagination. I know people who employed illegal labor because they couldn't get people to do the jobs. My late wife went and photographed people who worker in agriculture. She spoke with the roofers who did our roof. She and I visited little bodegas out in the sticks where these people lived.

I'm not an open border person. We should have nailed the borders shut after 9/11. But I'm also not a let's talk shit until it's normalized person. We are obviously dependent on illegal labor. It's not like these people are coming here and all starting businesses. And we are obviously increasingly dependent because labor from south of the border is increasingly common in more places. I remember my wife talking with guys in her hometown in rural Wisconsin. The economy had imploded, but it was ripe pickings for people willing to work back breaking work with no benefits and no protections for a few bucks.

I remember Alabama chasing out the illegal farm labor. An Alabama university did an economic post mortem on it. Rotted veggies. Check. But that was just the tip of the iceberg. Those workers paid rents, bought shit. Because of their economic class, they spent basically every cent they earned. Walmart. Fast food. Gasoline. Home shit. A total of a billion.

Never a mention of the American citizens who employ these peeps.

It sounds like this is a solution discussed long ago and long abandoned for the cultural war. Finding immigration categories where workers can have some basic human dignity and be afforded a classification where they have responsibilities to, and rights afforded by, society. And the ability of employers to have labor they can depend on.
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
It’s in a way hilarious, I live in a rural state with lots of big business farmers. They’re inevitably GOP supporters, and the majority are very pro Trump. They depend on illegal immigrants to do the work others won’t , for very low pay. At the same time they believe all the pro right wing propaganda and act like those immigrants aren’t driving their tractors and combines, these “farmers “ are dumber than rocks.
Ynotisay · M
As a Californian I'm pretty much over the whining farmers. I don't think the migrant workforce is the big issue here. They know where their bread is buttered. It's more about water. They take 80 percent of the state allotment and MAGA it up for more. And considering how much farmers are already subsidized by the 'gub'ment' it's mind blowing how they roll. No different than stomping their feet about "freedom" while working to deny freedom to others.
Carla · 61-69, F
It boggles the mind, doesn't it?
At this point it isnt just farm jobs that are going unfilled.
Where i am, restaurants have closed for lack of help, factories are not getting people, production is down. My gf just hired thirty hispanic workers (work permitted) as they just couldn't find help.
Hired translators too. These employees are making the same as everyone else. They required a fifty hour workweek, and must be told to take their scheduled breaks, their work ethic is amazing. The existing workforce there were mostly against their new coworkers. Threatened. Forced to step up.
And we are looking to bring back more manufacturing. Who is goung to fill these jobs?
Our population is aging. Birthrates are down. Immigration is an answer. We need reform so very badly. Not a wall.
And it isn't just farmers that are voting against their best interests.
SW-User
Making America great again by violently attacking government buildings is another hypocrisy I don't like.
walabby · M
If the people illegally hiring illegal migrants were prosecuted and fined and jailed, there'd be a lot less illegal migrants entering the USA. There'd be a lot less unemployment, too. Of course the price of certain things would rise...
justanothername · 51-55, M
@Vin53 Yup, they never have and never will but those service jobs keep the industry going.
@walabby Get rid of this idiot and their will be a lot less illegals in this country.
walabby · M
@thedarkside The guy with the blue shirt? What's wrong with him?
Vin53 · M
They really want slaves, not wage workers.
SW-User
It's never quite made sense to me that capitalists, who understand that some people need to be poor for the system to function, don't seem to appreciate the necessity of immigrant labor. And they go and complain about the rise in food prices... 🤔
Dino11 · M
And the immigrants will work harder than people from the U.S.
Dino11 · M
@bijouxbroussard One step at a time, Ms. Broussard, One step at a time...Get them gainfully employed, provide them with a HW package that works and protects their families,
give them pride of ownership of their new life.
@Dino11 With respect, there are people born and raised here who could use that kind of assistance, as well.
Dino11 · M
@bijouxbroussard I agree, but unfotunately we have a shortage of agricultural workers,
Our people know the work is there, many here don't like that grunt work,
like grunts like me. 😆
Canicu69 · 70-79, M
You are watching the wrong news station. You have no idea how farmer’s find migrant workers…maybe you should do the research and find out……I would tell you but you need to do your own research.
Canicu69 · 70-79, M
@Ynotisay my apologies I read the article and your comment stands…..I stand corrected. I would erase my previous comments but there is no way to delete again I apologize
Ynotisay · M
@Canicu69 Thanks for that but no apology necessary. I just appreciate that you went back and read it. That's a curious mind and that's always a good thing. Have a good one. 👍
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Canicu69 It's very rare that someone on here shows that level of honesty and humility. 👍
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
In Britain, farms also have the same problems and farmers are staunch conservative brexiteers.
Good. They should pay more. This is how third world immigration brings down wages.
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Vin53 · M
Pretty certain migrants and immigrants have been doing our shit jobs for centuries now.

@SW-User
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
Good, fucking right wing lunatics. I hope their crops go unharvested.
SW-User
it gets better: mafioso shepherds who keep setting the forests on fire will turn their island into a desert

https://ereb.eu/story/how-wildfires-and-climate-change-are-threatening-sicilys-future/

 
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