Both liberals and conservatives lose

I know I will take fire from both sides but here goes. In my opinion, if the elite establishment ( aka globalists) are successful we all lose. The liberals will not be allowed to implement a utopian society nor will the conservatives be allowed to maintain individual freedoms and a republic. Ok let the flames throwing begin. 😳

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bijouxbroussard · F

"Utopian society":
Protections against racial, ethnic and sexual discrimination.
LGBT inclusion.
A woman’s right to choose.
Workers’ rights
Affordable healthcare and education
A standard of law that applies to everyone; not just to those unable to afford competent counsel.
The true separation of church and state.

Dino11 · M

@bijouxbroussard Also, Clean air and a clean environment. and treating one another with
the respect they deserve.

spjennifer · 61-69, T

@bijouxbroussard Sadly, I think you'd need to look to our Northern neighbour for most of those, while no "Utopia", Canada has a lot more of those than we do 😦

bijouxbroussard · F

@spjennifer "Utopian" is not my term, it’s the OP’s.

I happen to think the things we want are reasonable and obtainable. And as you’ve pointed out, other countries have certainly managed it.

spjennifer · 61-69, T

@bijouxbroussard Agreed, but as long as we have the Retrumplicans trying to ruin things, most of those won't happen, noted your quotes around "Utopian Society" 😃

bijouxbroussard · F

@spjennifer Ironically, in the question conservatives are defined as attempting to "maintain individual freedoms".
These are the people who are trying to disenfranchise voters, take away reproductive options from women and, who hope to nullify marriage equality.

So I can only assume the "individual rights" they seek are to oppress and discriminate against others. Even Ron & Rand Paul have said that they would not have supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That tells me all I really need know about today’s conservatives.

spjennifer · 61-69, T

@bijouxbroussard You have to remember that today's Retrumplicans are heavily influenced by Evangelical Christian Nationalists who seek only to make things as they see them. The Rights of the rest of us don't matter, only theirs do, the rest of us will just have to obey if they have things as they want them to become 😦