Democracy, draining the swamp and forced birth?

@Carla I'd say both sides, really, in this case. This looks like a law with exceptions built in that weren't well thought out.

@MistyCee it's abhorrent, misty.
It seems the exceptions were thrown in haphazardly to say that there are indeed, exceptions.

@Carla Indeed. Here, my guess is that the state legislature probably didn't consult with practitioners about the wording of the statute or how it might actually work in practice.

There's a good chance to the whole statute was Unconstitutional when it was drafted, so why should they bother?

In many ways I like the "laboratory of the States" idea, but in practice, those labs are poorly run and underfunded at best.

@MistyCee i tried to find lab of the states. I could not. Well, a reference to something from 1932.
Could you direct me so i know what you are speaking of?

@Carla Sorry. I should have said laboratories of democracy.

Start with the wikki link below. I've always liked Brandeis' thoughts on this, probably because I was raised in the South with a deep seated distrust of a centralized and foreign federal government not in tune with the realities of localities, not that I don't see the problems with it, which is why Roe always troubled me.


We really don't have sovereign states, anymore than we have a purely capitalist economy, and generally, I think we're better off for it, but we've got to recognize that we've got a hybrid kind of system and I really think that making the hybrid systems we've already got should be a bigger priority than trying to wreck them to achieve something purer after failure.

It's why I don't think Bannon or even Trump and the MAGA folks can legitimately be called Conservatives. They're reactionaries, trying to rip stuff apart so they can achieve their own goals.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratories_of_democracy

@MistyCee thanks for that link.

I see how in theory that may work. On some level, it already does. But i am a cynic. I see unscrupulous officials and active, loud minorities enacting untenable laws.
And it is no secret what trump & company wish to do. Bannon has said it loud and proud. And i am pretty confident had there been no steve bannon , trump would be busy scamming investors instead of the whole country.

@Carla Just my own take, but I don't think either Bannon or Trump give a flying f-ck about abortion, social issues, or even policy, as much as how they can use them.

For example, on abortion, Trump seems to have been pretty savvy in terms of using NDAs, which would largely make the issue of abortion irrelevant.

And Bannon's been pretty upfront about stuff like social issues from the get go, being useful distractions for rubes.

@MistyCee oh, bannon has declared himself a leninist. He wishes to burn the country to the ground, and then himself and his "people" will rise from the ashes. He uses faux outrage over those distractions to weaponize his useful idiots.
Trump is in it for the adoration and money. Bottom line.
Bannon uses that too.