Does this syllogism make sense to you?
1. Trump's followers prefer Trump
2. America's enemies prefer Trump
3. Trumpists are enemies of America
2. America's enemies prefer Trump
3. Trumpists are enemies of America
22-25, F
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
It does look odd!
Being 3000 miles from the nearest point I can see the USA's febrile internal politics without being part of it.
No, many of the Americans who support Donald Trump genuinely think themselves deeply patriotic lovers of their nation, not its enemies; and sincerely believed his "Make America Great Again" slogan and promises to try to restore lost industries.
What sort of USA they want though, is another matter!
The snarling insult-trading rather than reasoned discourse on places like this suggests to me that there are Americans of both sides who would only be happy with a one-party state - of their party.
Where this places those who romanticise the Civil War era Confederacy, I don't know, but they are probably a tiny minority. Even so, a PM correspondent on here told me from land-locked, State-locked Utah of separatists dreaming of States governed by the party they support, breaking away from the USA. That would presumably create a one-party nation broken into enclaves randomly scattered between those of the other, or still of both, parties. If his claim is correct, it is hard to see how it could possibly work, but I doubt such people have thought about that.*
The foreign politicians who supporter Trump but hate the USA have their own political reasons, but some of those rulers, like Putin and Bolsanaro, seem to see in him reflections of their own personalities.
A lot of countries just despise the USA - and "Western" nations generally they sometimes see as White House puppets - irrespective of the party or president of the time. Some of those rely on continuity of governance safe from the vagaries of differing parties chosen by their citizens only every few years, and the person of any particular President or Prime Minister in our countries is not so important to their long-term strategies.
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*(I lay a similar charge here in England against the Welsh and Scots nationalists, of not thinking through what becoming independent states as they wish would mean in practice, irrespective of party-political wrangling.)
Being 3000 miles from the nearest point I can see the USA's febrile internal politics without being part of it.
No, many of the Americans who support Donald Trump genuinely think themselves deeply patriotic lovers of their nation, not its enemies; and sincerely believed his "Make America Great Again" slogan and promises to try to restore lost industries.
What sort of USA they want though, is another matter!
The snarling insult-trading rather than reasoned discourse on places like this suggests to me that there are Americans of both sides who would only be happy with a one-party state - of their party.
Where this places those who romanticise the Civil War era Confederacy, I don't know, but they are probably a tiny minority. Even so, a PM correspondent on here told me from land-locked, State-locked Utah of separatists dreaming of States governed by the party they support, breaking away from the USA. That would presumably create a one-party nation broken into enclaves randomly scattered between those of the other, or still of both, parties. If his claim is correct, it is hard to see how it could possibly work, but I doubt such people have thought about that.*
The foreign politicians who supporter Trump but hate the USA have their own political reasons, but some of those rulers, like Putin and Bolsanaro, seem to see in him reflections of their own personalities.
A lot of countries just despise the USA - and "Western" nations generally they sometimes see as White House puppets - irrespective of the party or president of the time. Some of those rely on continuity of governance safe from the vagaries of differing parties chosen by their citizens only every few years, and the person of any particular President or Prime Minister in our countries is not so important to their long-term strategies.
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*(I lay a similar charge here in England against the Welsh and Scots nationalists, of not thinking through what becoming independent states as they wish would mean in practice, irrespective of party-political wrangling.)