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So, Trumpers...why have you lost your shit just because a former president, subject of many ongoing criminal investigations, has his house raided?

Would it simply be justice being done if it was Hillary (or indeed any other Democrat?)

Explain.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
It's about power and connections. The Clintons and Biden have it because they've spent their entire adult lives cultivating it.

Trump does not, therefore everything he does will be given extra scrutiny and less benefit of the doubt.

It's not a Republican or Democrat thing. It's about having the power and influence to convince people you are a saint, while your political enemies are Hitler.

What say you about the Hunter Biden laptop or HRC's secret, illegal email server? You think justice was served there?
SW-User
@SumKindaMunster I'm not certain about the ins and outs of that, but I do know that Trump was the former president who is under investigation for, among other things, inciting a coup. Should the FBI have left him alone simply because he was the president? Also, has this illegal laptop thing run its course? Has there been an investigation? Has it been concluded?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SumKindaMunster I have to give you a B+ for that comment. It is about connections.. However, Trump has a long pre politics history of Screwing over anyone he ever dealt with and therefore ruined his own chances.😷
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User Well then, first and foremost I recommend you educate yourself on recent history and not rely on the culture du jour to tell you what to think and believe...

Should the FBI have left him alone simply because he was the president?

No, however if it turns out that recent Presidents such as Obama, Clinton and Bush Jr were given a wide latitude on what "archives" they took from the White House after they concluded their administrations then I would say Trump and his supporters have a point.

Also, has this illegal laptop thing run its course?

It has not, in fact new revelations come out all the time on this. Were you aware of the conspiracy amongst the major news networks and tech companies to claim this laptop was not legitimate and the result of "Russian disinformation"?

Have you reviewed some of the things found on this laptop? If not, what is stopping you? If so, do you believe it's fine to move on and not investigate some of this? It's clear he was heavily involved in drugs, prostitution, and possibly underage sex abuse, you think these things should just go unchallenged?

Has there been an investigation? Has it been concluded?

None that I am aware of. The Senate did a very brief investigation into specifically whether or not the laptop showed undo influence in Ukraine and China. They decided that it did, but not enough to warrant charges. Was that a political decision? I'd say it was.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Fair enough, but it sounds like you agree that he is being investigated for political reasons.
@SumKindaMunster Spot on.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SumKindaMunster Certainly I do agree he is being investigated for political reasons. So lets take that back a step. America is corrupted by money and power (lets call it influence) Thats about people and greed and happens on both sides of politica, all regions and all ethnic origins, because its people. (But lets not get bogged down in that)
So the "American way" is to do stuff as I am sure the Clintons and Pelosi and Trump and many others have all done, then buy or blackmail your way out of it.
But in this case, Trump has not played the game that meant he was truly connected to "The Right people" (In the way maybe Jeffrey Epstein was) and surrounded himself with second and third rate flunkies instead. Now both sides are happy to see him thrown under a bus with the hicks and ignorant hayseeds being the only people on his side. That was his political power and the only reason the Party stayed with him. But thats all fading now and the Republicans know they are going to have to regroup under some new banner, or be dragged down further. So the political expedient is to take one for the team and let Trump be sacrificed.😷
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman so let's erase 246 years of precedent then.

Now we can Raid every Presidential Library and or Home.

Here's some News for you. Nixon's Home or Library was never ever Raided.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@dakotaviper Nixon took a pardon (admitting his crime) and resigned. No American should be above the law, as much as it has often seemed they are.. Opinions on Trump aside, if there is evidence, it needs to be followed, no matter where it leads..😷
dakotaviper · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman True, but they still didn't Raid his Home. Now did they.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@dakotaviper Agreed.. Maybe they should have, and the Clintons. We will never know. Maybe they got it wrong then. But by the process, they got it right this time. And you better believe the FBI people and the judge who signed off on this did so with one eye on their careers if this doesnt turn out right.. Being raided like that doesnt mean trump is guilty. Thats the law. But go have a look at what the Vegas betting is on it after the raids. Those guys know how these things work.,😷